No I mean every pic we get shows overcast and fog. Certainly with all that’s at stake, they’re not going to risk it.
I don’t think that this is fog or bad weather but more because of all these pictures so much blurred.
Deino
I was going to say, how is it possible with visibility zero?
Why “zero visibility” ?? … are You at the moment in Chengdu ??? I really have no idea about the current weather conditions there.
Deino
There are just reports that the “Wei Long” (meaning Powerful Dragon) had its maiden flight this morning !
Deino
EDIT: Not yet. High speed taxi only, nose wheel lift off but no flight.
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Since not to see the real life high res. pictures I won’t belive the existance of this plane! Today even the worst mobile phone gets better picture than 150×150! In my opinion this thread is going foolish with such unclear pictures and fan arts. Hope we get some better pictures or flight video finally and everybody believes!
I agree with You to be sceptical but just wait a bit longer … in comparison to the first pictures of the J-10B, it was b nearly the same: a first blurred, pixeled one was posted, all were crying “look yet another PSed FAKE !” – then a few days discussions forth and back … several smaller “parts” were leaked … and finally about two weeks (not sure) later we saw that bird standing on the CAC tarmac.
And right another thing: There are (for sure) better pictures available, but they were not published yet, because they fear the censorship … as such a blurred one is posted, then one a bit better only showing a part (like the pitot below !) … then another one to test how far they can go … in a few days we will see the whole bird.
So … just simply wait
So,what you saw?
I agree with You to be sceptical … but I see at least something, that is – not only IMO – not PSed nor anything that has been seen in China before … in addition to several eye-witness repors from some reliable “sources” (including actually the one who posed the first J-10B pictures) I think it’s save to say that there is something going on.
If You or some others prefer to belive that China still can only copy Russian types … then that’s up to You.
Cheers and merry Christmas.
Deino
I don’t see a subject for debate. I see only a set of pixels.
Like I said before … some really don’t want to see
Sorry Deino my friend, most of the very good photos of the new J-20 are being deleted from all forms of media by the Chinese. It would seem that security on the J-20 is extremely strict and Chinese censorship is in full swing right now.
And I am as upset as you appear to be, believe me. But there will be an upcoming official release – but very controlled. In actuallity, the Chinese are more open with the new J-20 than they were with the J-10. So there is still hope to get better good quality photos of the J-20, actually, I am looking forward to the official releases in the days to come.
Agreed … but I have the bad feeling that this wi happen when I’m in the Winter-hollydays with the family … no internet … for one week !!!!! 😮
Deino
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Here’s the same enlarged picture a bit “modified” by “overscan” (Secret.Projects Forum)
Deino
Are You sure that they look that huge ?? … IMO rather small more like the S-37’s twin tail. :confused:
Deino
Ähhhm Aspis could we please go back to the original topic and leave this really stupid “Germany bashing-theme” ??
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Evn if I again take this “only” as a fan-art … I have to admit it is one of the nicest concept I’ve seen so far !!
So let’s hope ….;)
Deino
Seems the second prototype won’t be an identical copy of first one after all.. Good news!
Sorry, couldn’t resist …:diablo: with a “52” it will be numbered differently !
Deino
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Deino, do you know what is the usual size of a army aviation regiment for attack helos?…
Not a sure number … but regarding the number of hangars – esp. in Nanjing – I would say about 20 !
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=&ll=31.971,118.841&z=14
Deino