It will look exactly the same as the current LSP versions, there are no pictures, the tender for the 99 engines with a option of 45 is underway.

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But it will have a larger wing and intake … so not exactly the same ! … and esp. these small differences are intersting !

Besides that … is there a chance of getting a model kit preferrable in 1/72 scale of that bird ??? PLEASE !!!

Deino

1. Can you give links proving the Gripen cost 31 million for the Swedish AF.

2. The Gripen NG is comparable to the Tejas MK2, but is likely to be more expensive. Its advantage over the Tejas is SAABs proven track record of success and delivering stuff on time. This is exactly why I believe Tejas is not being considered for the MRCA.

3. What is flying is Gripen demo, basically a testbed for the systems that are going into the Gripen NG. Like I said it is more advanced in its development path than the MK2 Tejas but thats all. The Tejas MK1 will see squadron service earlier than any Gripen NG, so your comparison is wide off the mark.

Sorry to step in in this – IMO – completely useless discussion !

You are right, the current flying Gripen NG is “only” a testbed and maybe not 100 % the proposed serial version … but as You stated by Your own: SAABs proven track record of success and delivering stuff on time proved – and here in sharp contrast to HAL – that in a very short time such a machine could be converted, again updated now with an AESA and ready for production in a much shorter time than Your proposed Tejas Mk. 2, which is at the moment nothing more than a paper-tiger – even with good proposed performances and price – which will fly only when … ????

Sorry, but given HAL’s record in testing and delivering a proven capable fighter in comparison to Saab, I would always take the Gripen, even if a “bit” more expensive. Also, how many aircraft can HAL produce per year ? … 8-12 at best as stated some time ago. 🙁

That surely should not dereil HAL’s or ADA’s succes in developing a moderne fighter suitable to replace the MiG-21, but IMO it is far from that succesful to compete on the world market.

Deino

Griffon39, Unfortunately I don’t speak Russian. Hopefully someone will be able to translate it.

Here’s a picture of an Iranian F-14A with USSR markings.

NO !!!! THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED SO OFTEN … its a FAKE !!

Deino

Quoting myself ….. again …..

….. and now ….. mid-December ….. anything new about the promised ….. :rolleyes: ….. and too much delayed issue 27 ?

….. 😡 …..

Sadly YES … last info I got is that Mel was introducing a new editor or similar, which required more time than planned … so issue 27 is still toooooooo late !

Sorry,
Deino 😡

For sure they would need approval, … but honestly: what are the chances for the Tejas of being selected by a foreign customer ??? (and that’s not because of any politicla or technical issues to start a flame war)

Deino

Are there any better pictures of the PV-5 available so far ???

… nad does anyone know why it wasn’t already painted?

Deino

Yeppp … it seems as

Monday, November 23, 2009
Offical Statement Regarding China’s fourth Generation Fighter
The PLAAF public relations department confirmed the reported “fourth generation fighter [J-xx]” is based on the improved J-10 design. This confirmation was published by the Xinhua News Agency and the PLA daily.

… seems the original source of the english version from the link above !

Apparently this so-called “official statement” actually came from the blog of Rear Admiral Zhang Zhaozhong, an NDU professor who often appears on CCTV. Interestingly, just before Admiral Zhang came out with his new blog entry, CCTV had aired the first half of an interview with him describing a stealthy 4th gen. fighter which will fly “in one to two years”. The second half of that interview was never aired. You be the judge. Here is someone’s analysis, that Zhang got into trouble with his big mouth and is trying to back-pedal…

前面一系列的暴料，虽然听起来让人目瞪口呆，但是仔细分析一下，干货不多，我们能总结出来的就是以下几点：
1.四代机是以F22为追赶目标的，具体指标可能有变，但是4S大前提不松口。这证明确实使用的是旧美标划代标准。
2.四代机是全新的产品，不会是某种现有机型的改进。因为现有的机型能改出4S的可能性微乎其微。
3.进展基本顺利，近期可以首飞。2020年应该可以小批量试装备。
就这几样干货，其实说起来并不算十分惊世骇俗。其它的，都是网友结合别的消息来源推测的，作不得数。
张召中的节目本来分上下期，结果上期播完，下期被掐了。仔细考察上期的内容，可以和其他官员的暴料相吻合，但是多了一个精确的数据“1～2年内首飞”。所以很有可能是这个数据让高层觉得不爽了，于是封杀之。
另一方面，张召中后来在blog里面解释四代机是J10改进型的说法，极为突兀，和其他人的暴料完全矛盾，具体的细节也多不能自圆其说。所以这个所谓的澄清更像是在遭到上面批评之后急急忙忙写出来消毒的一篇“检查”。这叫做“常在电视讲，哪能不泄密”啊
于是归纳一下，老张可能不小心说出了真话，“山寨猛禽”一两年内首飞可能是一件相当靠谱的推测。

Deino

@ Tutpriduri ! … Just let me ask one question !

Is this a special hobby to collect blue-coloured after-burner pictures of Russian aircrafts ????

Maybe You should start another tread about this, and therefore I would like to remind You to the original topic’s title:

“Chinese New Generation Fighter will fly soon….. !”

Deino 😡