Hey … nearly unnoticed because of all this Typhoon-bashing here in in this other stupid tread !!
(photo taken by “YAMRIDER R1” found at:
http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2137&sid=a846c81ac8b390e14945d6db5e45dc2d)
Deino
…. here’s another “failure” !!! :p
(photo taken by “YAMRIDER R1” found at:
http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2137&sid=a846c81ac8b390e14945d6db5e45dc2d)
Deino
On the F-15K the IRST isn’t located where you’d usually expect (and where the F-15J testbed carries it), it is integrated into the Tiger-Eye (souped-up LANTIRN) designator-pod pylon. Very much like the FLIR that has always been installed above the nav-pod on the other side.
Thanks … never noticed this detail !!
Very clever location !!
Deino
The F-15K IRST is a variant of the AN/AAS-42 installed on the F-14D, IIRC. As such, it can be expected to have detection range on par with the very impressive PIRATE, but not sure about tracking and imaging capabilities.[/url]
รคhhhm … the F-15K has an IRST ??? Where … I’ve never sen one !
The only picture of an Eagle with a IRST is that Japanese test-bed ! :confused:
Deino
Reading other postings on here and it seems as if the Eurofighter seems to be losing an increasing number of competitions for sale to several other nations. Several reasons are given but could the Eurofighter flop as a major export model due to competition from Rissia, America and even other European nations?
Sorry… but I don’t understand such stupid treads !??!!:mad:
The Typhoon has a much larger order back-log alone from the original 4 customers … then there’s Saudia Arabia getting its first aircraft next year and Austria !
If both countries maybe should have chosen another airplane stands not to discussion.
Also the Typhoon was chosen by Grece and it’s currently on offer for Japan, India, Rumania and several other competitions …
Once again regardless if other fighters may suit better for an individual coutry.
So just let me ask “Why should it be a flop because competition from Rissia, America and even other European nations?” ????
How many sales currently have the MiG-35 ??? … how many the Su-35 ??? … how many the Rafale ??? … and the “old” F-16 and Gripen are often chosen because of an compromise between cost and performance !
Just my thoughts ! ๐ก
At least here is something for dreaming …. ๐
(from the latest issue of CombatAircraft 10+11/08)
Cheers, Deino
The chart compares the WJ1-TE-004, Storm Shadow, and JSOW.
Type, length, diameter, gross weight, payload weight, range, and guidance.
The * states the WJ1 specs are guessed. 8D
So this “thing” is called WJ1-TE-004 …. :confused: Any other related information if it is a stand-off or cruise missile or just submunition dispenser ?
Thanks, Deino
Here’s a much better picture of that “thing” … (from CDF)
Deino ๐
Anynews on the C-X ???
Deino
thats ur assumption. Russia Radar scientist have clearly claimed they can see Stealth. and u cannot certainly challenge instituional claim of Sukhoi, MIG and Ruaf. It is backed up by centuries of scientific discoveries. not some imported knowledge.
Translation. Undistinguished planes, hypersonic intercepts. range exceeding 200km. (offcourse real range is several times of that)
โฆ of course ! Thatโs for granted. ๐ฎ
Just one question and then I will end my part on that discussion as it seems useless !
Do You believe everything a Russian commander-in-chief or someone from Sukhoi tells You without questioning !!
Just take a look, what theyโve promised before, what became true โฆ and what they are telling You now.
You are obsessed by the dream of a Russian superiority โฆ keep on dreaming. ๐ก
Deino
F-35 is at most quarter a generation ahead. as Su-35 is 4++ aircraft (There wont be 4+++ as Su-27SM is 4+).with ability to fight MIG-31/F-22. and superior to all existence 4+ generation aircraft.
flight hrs accumulation on Sukhoi is not the same thing as any other manufacturer. Clear reference to 5th generations systems in Su-35.
Oh wait a minute and then isn’t a 4++ class fighter not a 5- class fighter !?? And is a 4++ automaticly better than a 4+ … ?
Come on … These classifications are all useless :p untill You don’t know what available too (AWACS, EW, network … ) and not to forget the pilot and tactics … and the F-35 has surely has the “ability to fight MIG-31/F-22” (that’s a very good joke, not even Lockheed Martin would tell !) :dev2:
How do u know anything about PAK-FA/Su-34 that it is less of achievment? The only statement is there are no counterpart to them in the World.
I don’t say it is less an achivement in comparison to other aircarft from Russia and abroad, but does this directly mean they aren’t allowed to be delayed ?
And Yes I don’t know anything of the T-50 … but I’m surely YOU know everything about the PAK-FA … and as long it isn’t built, test-flown, certified and read for combat everything else is a fan-boy’s wet-dream.
… and reagarding the Su-34 – following Your own statement: YES, it’s the only fighter-bomber in the world that has been “4 times upgraded completely take into light the changing requirements” (WHY ?? .. only because of changing requirements but also because of reliablity and performance issues ?!!), … and wait a minute: it’s only flying in limited numbers since years – and most likely in years to come. ๐
That the USA or Europe don’t have a counterpart in the same class doesn’t mean anything … at least the US has some bombers and fighter-bombers that areoperational since years in the role Your Su-34 still has to proove.
Su-35 – deeply modernized super-maneuverability multifunctional fighter of the generation โ4++โ. In it the technologies of the fifth generation, which ensure superiority over the fighters of analogous class, are used. The distinctive special features of aircraft are the new complex of avionics on the basis of the digital information-control system, which integrates the systems of onboard equipment, new radar (RLS) with the phased antenna array with the long range of the detection of aerial targets with the increased number of simultaneously accompanied and fired purposes, new engines with the increased thrust and the rotary thrust vector.
Typical advertisments by the manufacture … nothing proven so far !!
Or am I wrong ???
If You would thrust all JSF-marketing brochures in the same manner one could think the only thing missing is a warp-drive !:D
Deino
Well Well Well! That is an interesting find…
It certainly is consistent with what we are expecting for PAK-FA and its on the manufacturers web site. Has a promotional image been used early by accident.
I don’t think so … IMO they currently don’t want to show anything real of that bird. And so they simply used a very nice CG of what all expect how it would look like.
IMO the PAK-FA will most likely look completely different to everything “we are expecting for PAK-FA” ! Or did You expect the Suckhoi-MFI contender (S-37 or now Su-41) as a FSW-fighter before these blurred model pictures were leaked ??
Deino
Name me one country in the World that can built fighter with 11.5 tons internal load, 3D TVC hypermanevorability, 6000flight hours (no breaking up). extensive use of titanium (No carbon composites) and still weigh less than competition. and all with interanal money of firm untill this point.
Ohhh … just give me a break: How many of them are currently flying ??? If I remember correct, then there are currently two prototypes, that accumulated how many hours of flying !! ๐
None of these Sukhoi-advertisment-performances have so far been archieved or demonstrated, at least surely not all … (the same with Lockeed Martin with its F-35 which is surely a generation ahead, which is and also delayed !!:diablo:)
When u cannot see the difference in monetary/technical challenges i cannot explain further. There is huge difference between 1500 airframe life MIG-29 of Soviet era and Su-34 of 2008. It is the precision strike and quality of systems that matters.
Exactly my point … You can’t compare Russia / SU with all its archievents and say the same goes on with the PAK-FA and Su-34.
Deino
He is clearly referring to IAF requirements that it should outperform physically F-35/F-22 like Speed/Range etc. And nothing wrong with that schedule. ur looking at 2017-2020 IAF induction schedule after MKI is done at 2014. Similar to export JSF. I dont take that MRCA seriously.
India would only signup for modification of existing aircraft PAK-FA will be pretty mature by first flight of PAK-FA(MKI). PAK-FA is huge programe with all kind of version coming out during course of its development.
Oh ha … that’s strage, especially as he was clearly not mentioning the Indian version ! Nothing on that it will “outperform the F-35/F-22 … esp. as the F-22 isn’t developed jointly by the Untied Kingdom and the Untied States. ๐
Even stranger as just some posts above I was only saying that the Indian version – IMO – would be delayed ! And what was Your reply ???? I was told that this …
Why shouldl PAK-FA be delayed? Compare the monetary and infrastruture resources available now to 90s? difference of light and day.
PAK-FA is state funded program with completely new infrastructure built for it. Now in one year Russia spends more money on Aviation and aerospace as 10 years in 90s. From 2011 to 2015. Russia alone will spend 50 to 100 times money on Aviation as compared to 80s and 80s. Ur no seeing this difference. This whole different game.
Su-34 is not delayed it was 4 times upgraded completely take into light the changine requirements. If sukhoi spends 10 years on some thing under no funding in 90s. Any other manufacturer will have to spend 100 years to achieve the same result.
I think You really don’t know what You write … all You can is bash on those who say current Russian programmes are not that top-level, are not that mature, current Russian programmes are delayed … Russia with all its super-duper-hyper weapons like the hundreds of km-ranging AAMs, the nearly fifth generation Su-35 … !
I think You are no seeing this difference. This is still the same as other countries have to deal with … just take a look at all other high-tech projects military or civil. Not a whole different game.
Maybe Your beloved Russia will rise again … but after taking a look what came out during the last decade (even with a lot of mony spent during the last years) … its still a pale shade of what it was once before … and therefore I don’t expect a miracle during the next decade.
Deino ๐ก
??? :confused:don’t see anything related to PAK-FA
… if You knlick on the Su-35 You get another menu with this !!
I won’t take it too serious … just the nice – but I think dated – CG from J. Gatial.
Deino