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  • in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 9 #2599639
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    from Tigershark … is this the one with the IFR-probe ???

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 9 #2600056
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    … and another one from the same source !

    Seems to be one of the “older” birds with the two-digit grey numbers before painting was finished !?!

    CORRECTION:

    This is a new aircraft as can be seen on the 3-part front-gear doors ! (bey Tam / CDF) … Thanks !

    Deino

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 9 #2600131
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    Just found at CDF posted by GT !

    J-10B no. 1021

    Cheers, Deino

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 9 #2600281
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    looks just like someone changed the contrast of the pic before saving and posting. note the lighter shade of the aircraft shelter behind the J10.

    …. but this is definately a third (or fourth) paint scheme.

    Thanks … that’s why I asked about a possible “lightning effect” !

    Cheers, Deino

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 9 #2600484
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    These ones have a light blue grey scheme, but the camo pattern scheme is darker than the 101X series planes and they use red letters, also unlike the 101X.

    Hmmm … after taking a deeper look thru my J-10 picture collection I’m not realy sure about a third colour sheme … maybe it could be some kind of lightning effect !?! :confused:

    I found this very old picture of an early prototype which seems to show the same light blue grey scheme …. a later found bigger view of the same picture shows the darker scheme !?! … and this one seems to be one of the darker prototypes … or this is one of these “missing” prototypes as the number which was cut-away seems to small to be a 4 digit number !

    Any comments …. :confused:

    Deino

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 9 #2600486
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    first offical J-10 photo from a magzine

    Do You know what magazine published these pictures ???

    By the way; besides the “strage observations” discribed by crobato the first J-10 shows some kind of “replaced parts” or “airframe modifications” in form of these yellow parts which I’ve never seen on any other J-10 !

    Esp. the 1003 show above shoews the “usual” modifications on the tain and above + below the wings !

    Deino :confused:

    in reply to: Q-5 Fantan #2600891
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    This was posted some time ago at the CMF … unfortunately one page is missing !

    Maybe it could help …. ๐Ÿ˜€

    Cheers, Deino

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 8 #2601796
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    Regarding the estimations on the current production status for the J-10 I have an idea โ€ฆ or question at least !

    1. If the factory in Chengdu can be seen so clearly in open public or at least the factory airfield it should be known exactly how many J-10s are produced each month โ€ฆ and there should be more pictures available from that view.

    2. The same for the two regiment under the 44th Division: both discussed locations – Kunming-Wujiaba and / or Mengzi seem to be located in a quite populated are โ€ฆ so why are there so reports of normal โ€œAir Force Baseโ€ traffic like how many missions were flown each day / week or so ? Why do we only know photoshoped pictures of these serial planes ? That we have only so few pictures from the test facilities is explainable, but from a normal regiment it should be possible to acquire more information.

    Any comments from You ??? :confused:

    Cheers, Deino

    in reply to: SU-30 MKK2 AWACS POD #2602009
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    Hi Deino,what about this,EL-L8222 ECM pod

    Hey … Thanks for posting ! I’ve never seen this pod under a Su-30MKI !

    But if it could also carrry a litening pod … ???? :confused:

    Cheers, Deino ๐Ÿ™‚

    in reply to: SU-30 MKK2 AWACS POD #2602034
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    Hi,the Indian Su-30MKI used Litening pod from IAI

    If I’m not completely wrong is this not the Litening … it’s an ECM-pod sometimes seen under the Israeli F-15’s !

    Deino

    in reply to: PLA (All Forces) Missiles #1823377
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    Some kind of supersonic cruise missile project I presume.

    I think this is the drone carried by the H-6 drone-carrier !?!

    in reply to: PLA (All Forces) Missiles #2042535
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    Just found at the China-tread … posted by Pinko (Thanks !!)

    What kind of missile is this ???? … and the H-6 looks like a H-version ??? Can anyone confirm, Please ?!

    Deino ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Deino
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    Just to add some ideas made by “crobato” and “GoldenDragon” for further discussion:

    โ€ข I didn’t think China had the material science and the metallurgy to make the engine happen even though the engineers have a full grasp of the core engine theory. Without the engine happening soon the project is as good as dead. China’s material science was good enough only to match for the metallurgy required for the MiG-21 R-11 engines, but not for the demands of the MiG-23’s R-27 engines.

    โ€ข They could have used the Speys, but it is very likely that the J-13 was designed for the much more narrower turbojet that more similar to the MiG-23 in dimensions. To use the Spey would have required totally redesigning the fuselage, and thus the whole plane. (crobato)

    โ€ข The metallurgy problem is there because the R-27 engine is a lot more powerful than the R-11 for a given size. The material science isn’t up to there to handle all the heat and stress. It does not matter if it is a turbofan or a turbojet.

    โ€ข As far as I know, China only began their contacts with Sukhoi around 1990 long after the J-13 project is dead. China was actually and originally more interested with Mikoyan, either the MiG-29 or MiG-31 or both (these are what the PLAAF originally wanted), then appeared to shift to Sukhoi at the last moment due to Li Peng.

    Any comments, Deino

    Deino
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    To start off with the JH-7’s Spey (Rolls-Royce Mark 202) is a low bypass engine meant for efficiency not performance and so is more suitable to long range strike craft than a fighter. The J-13 which was supposed to be an interceptor/fighter.

    Also the J-13 with a turbojet comes into direct conflict with an interceptor already in SAC’s stable, the J-8II.

    Will write more as I research the rest.

    Thanks a lot for that suggestion and also for Your will to help with more information !

    Do You think that there will be some day some kind of Chinese Perestroika and all these information will be available ???? โ€ฆ. And please before 2050, when I will be 80 !!

    Cheers, Deino ๐Ÿ˜€

    in reply to: WS-10A: Current Status #2606503
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    Another – second – post made by “sales” was added at CDF:

    the article Published in the No.3 issue 2001 of Aeroengine Journal , Author of which is Mr.Zhang -the chief designer on 10A. SARI (No.606) is the sponsor of this magazine.
    10A was developed from CFM56 core engine imported in the mid 1980s ,designed to power both domestic ะกัƒ-27 and “New Fighter”.
    According to the structure & performance, 10A turbofan bears a strong resemblance to her “oversea relatives ” (F110 family ),so we can also call her domestic F110

    Can anyone help with a translation ?????

    Cheers, Deino ๐Ÿ˜€

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