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  • in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2247450
    Deino
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    hard to say after only 5 min watching it in details but nothing in there to make it genuinely true. cld hve been ps.

    Agreed, but if correct, then the tail booms look different.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2247463
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    Is this real ??? Usually that guy is quite a reliable poster ?!!! :confused:

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2247552
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    Simply amazing images by Angad Singh !

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/angad84/page1/

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2247600
    Deino
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    2014 might be a static frame for all we know.

    I don’t think so … even if You might be correct and 2003 is the static airframe for the demonstrators (however I thought that this is simply no. 2000).

    Anyway to admit I’m still surprised and speechless, even 2011 and 2012 alone would be a great success or progress to this program, but that they managed to fly 4 J-20s this year is something I did not expect.
    Therefore if the 201x aircraft are already representing a similar status like the J-10 101x- pre-production models, we could probably even speak of something similar to a LRIP.

    2001 – 11. January 2011
    2002 – 6. Mai 2012 (now renumbered as 2004)
    —–
    2011 – 1. March 2014
    2012 – 26. July 2014
    2013 – 29. November 2014
    2015 – 19. December 2014

    Deino

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2247778
    Deino
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    What’s Your source if I may ask ??? in the usual Chinese Forums I cannot find anything !

    Deino

    Hmmm … seems as if ‘2015’ just landed after ist maiden flight !!

    凑个热闹!

    战略网前线传回消息,2014年12月19日14时,中国四代机歼20,第6架原型机 编号2015号 开始试飞

    14:01:21 滑出

    14:04:14 起飞

    14:23 刚刚降落

    没有伴飞的

    11月29日,国产歼20战机 2013号原型机成功进行了首次试飞。该机与前几架原型机在外形上有明显不同,机首取消了空速管。该机是歼-20的第五架原型机,也是改进批次的第三架原型机。之前,2011和2012号原型机已经于今年3月和7月先后首飞。

    昨天(12月18日)就有战略网网友向战略网透露, 2015号歼20在西南某机场进行地面测试,今日即传出首飞成功的消息。分析人士认为,2015号歼20的成功首飞,表明中国在第四代隐形战机的研发上已经超越俄罗斯,紧随美国。

    军事评人士对战略网表示,2015号歼20试飞成功,标志着中国目前已经拥有6架歼20。中国离量产第四代战机又进一步。

    Via BING-translator:

    14:01:21 slide out

    At 14:04:14

    14:23justlanded

    Notwithflying

    On November 29, the domestically producedj-20fighterprototypeNo. 2013,successfullycarriedou**** firsttest flight.Themachineand the firstfewprototypeshavesignificantlydifferentinshape,firstcancelthepitottubes.Thismachineisthefifthfighterjetprototype,improvedbatchesof the thirdprototype.,2011andprototypeNo. 2012,alreadyfirst flewinMarch andJuly this yearrespectively.

    Yesterday(December 18)with a strategicnetworkusertodisclose to strategynetwork,No. 2015 f20groundtestingataairport in Southwest China,today a successfulmaiden flightnews.Analystsbelieve thatsuccessfulfirst flightof the j-20,No. 2015,suggesting thatChina’s fourth-generationstealthaircraftdevelopmenthas gonebeyondRussia,followed by the United States.

    Militarywhoexpressedstrategicnetworkassessment,No. 2015, the j-20test flight OK,indicates that Chinanowhas6aircraftj-20.VolumeproductionfromChina to fourth-generationfighter aircraftfurther.

    Deino

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2247782
    Deino
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    2015 just finished maiden flight

    What’s Your source if I may ask ??? in the usual Chinese Forums I cannot find anything !

    Deino

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2247948
    Deino
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    Hmmm … regardless of how much I would like to take this bird as real, I’m very much skeptical ! First of all – again regardless all progress we’ve seen in recent years – the timing seems off, it’s too soon (says my stomach) and even more this out-of sequence number ‘2015’ !? I do not believe in these superstitious things as discussed – why omitting the number “14” but using “04” even to renumber ‘2002’ ?? It makes no sense IMO.

    Therefore this is either a ps-job done my an overambitious fan … or indeed a mayor surprise and then there’s most likely also a ‘2014’ somewhere out there …

    Will 2015 join the other flying prototypes or be used for static testing, because the PLAAF do not currently have any static test J-20s.

    Since all so far spotted aircraft are plying prototypes I can’t think that this one – if true – will be a static airframe only.

    Deino

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2250011
    Deino
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    … a bit better … :p

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2250085
    Deino
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    not very clear but you should be able to see the IFR probe
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    Thanks, but quite interesting the lower image is actually an older one showing most likely ‘2002’ and is dated from ‎12. ‎November ‎2012.

    Deino

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2250922
    Deino
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    🙂

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2251390
    Deino
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    That’s the first time SAP-518 pods have been seen in Indian service.

    Are You sure ??? … they look more like the typical Sorbtsiya pod ??

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2254335
    Deino
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    ‘2013’ !!!! :p

    Better ones ….

    in reply to: Regarding F-15 s combat record #2254511
    Deino
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    Yet you fail to point out where I said the F-15 is a bad fighter
    You fail to answer straight the second question.

    Maybe in your view (intellectually limited) an Air superiority fighter of F-15`s calibre must brag with slamming right and left jets that are decades older in conception and a fraction of a cost compared to the Eagle.

    Why do I have to show You were You said something, when You are not even capable to explain what You want ? As such – and even more given Your aggressive way or arguing – it seems You are in no way interested in a true and honest discussion but simply to troll around.

    I think You are correct, I’m too much “intellectually limited” and therefore give up … but maybe You try this forum, there’s this way of behavior a common thing, but please not here.
    http://www.network54.com/Forum/211833/

    Deino

    in reply to: Regarding F-15 s combat record #2254565
    Deino
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    1. Point exactly where I said Eagle is a bad fighter

    2. How can OLDER GENERATION Fishbeds and Floggers be considered real threats ? Nevermind Su-22 & 25, various other helicopters etc

    The problem is actually quite simple: a fighter has to kill other aerial targets, and here the rules are not “this generation vs. this one” is allowed and this is unfair as such the quality of a certain type is dismissed. Where do You draw the like in regard to the MiG-29 ? … or even do You want to differ between different lots the F-15, the E-model or a MSIP-II C ?? Even more if the Russians had simply nothing better at hand when the F-15 came out, … why does the Eagle has to wait until a true and justified opponent comes out ? If the opponent is simply not capable to pose a real threat then its simply not the F-15’s problem.

    As such – and even if I know what You want to explore with Your question – this tread is completely stupid, useless … it’s like telling the Great White Shark or a Tiger an unfair predator since all small fishes or a deer simply can’t be considered a real threat !

    Deino

    in reply to: Regarding F-15 s combat record #2254575
    Deino
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    Fact is, out of 100+ victories 13 !! are worth mentioning and considering.

    Oh, God, I think now my worst fears about your logic have just come true. But o.k. I’m or we are all plain stupid, and the F-15 is a baaaad fighter since it scored only 13 “worthy to be mentioned” by Your logic victories.

    Any more questions ?

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