No, I really like the Su-35S very much … but I don’t like stupid posts with quotings from unreliable sources – and even more of copy & paste postings which simply say the same that all not even have a minimum understanding in CHinese aviation matters – not that I have it – only to bake the own feeling of being better.

Some on, not the number of sources is important but the reliability of a source alone … and regarding Chinese things esp. rian was wrong more than once.

Deino

Depends on how they manage the legal terms of the deal..China may order 48 and then lo and behold the J-11 clones may end up being upgraded to the Su-35 standards with reverse engineered Su-35 technology.

That is the main reason why they’re looking for the Su-35 anyway, isn’t it? The J-11B isn’t up to par with the Su-30MKI even, so the Su-35 will be a big jump..they want the Irbis and the technology to allow them to lighten the airframe, as well as the 117S. The engine technology to be used for improving the WS-10 maybe?

The reasons for wanting just 48 Su-35s is quite obvious. Russians are surely fully aware of the dangers of this sale, and how this technology will find its way into designs that will compete with their fighters in the future.

Huhu … there’s NO deal, China does not want the Su-35S !!!! … it has already been denied ! see: http://forum.keypublishing.com/showpost.php?p=1866516&postcount=649

http://rusnews.cn/ezhongguanxi/ezhong_anquan/20120309/43366237.html

http://www.ria.ru/defense_safety/20120309/590972243.html

Deino

China seeks to buy Su-35 and S-400.

presumably not satisfied with latest J-11 and J-10 developments

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/china-requests-sukhoi-su-35-fighter-buy-368838/

Seems to be denied ! … “presumably once again a high-quality report from the Russian media” :diablo:

http://rusnews.cn/ezhongguanxi/ezhong_anquan/20120309/43366237.html

http://www.ria.ru/defense_safety/20120309/590972243.html

Deino

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Politics has nothing to with projects
….

Sorry my friend, but that’s thest joke for today !!! 😀

IA inducts its 2nd Brahmos regiment into service.

IA inducts 2nd Brahmos regiment near Pakistan border

Impressive … 😮

Honestly, I don’t understand all that hype of the PAF getting the J-21, the J-21 being the export-J-20 and so on.

As far as I know the PAF is mentioned with no word to be the launch customer or that this type is tailored for the PAF.

As such – IMO:diablo: – it is simply SAC’s attempt to stay in China’s fighter business, maybe even to survive as an independent aircraft developer.
But … if they do it right and manage to get a modern multi-role type into the air, that type could well be some kind of a Chinese-JSF with probably larger orders – esp. if a carrier-borne version will follow – than the J-20.

As such … let’s wait and hope.

Deino

The Il-76 is a battle tested, tough,reliable aircraft.

The An-70 is none of the above at this point.

Self explanatory.

Yes and that mixed up with politics and other decissions led to the situation we have, but it doesn’t make it the best one since following that logic nover ever a new design will be introduced !;)

Deino