Now ask yourself.. who is setting the RoE for these tests and do they have an agenda heading into the events.
A always liked the McDD proposal for it’s tail layout and gas-driven lift fan.
Yes.. I have zero hours on any type but I think the same.
You have every right to think what you want.. but you should not (and neither should I) be thought of as an authority on the subject. Unfortunately that is not the way reporting is done these days. Nobody does fact-checking untill well after articles are published. If they did, then mistakes like this would not make it through:
As recently emerged Danish pilots have not been allowed to test fly the F-35 and will probably not be allowed until the signed purchase contract.
I am still trying to find background info on their claim of “not been allowed to test fly” the f-35. If anyone has info, please post.
Checking the latest Fast-Facts file shows that they don’t have any and none on order. Did they mean “test fly” as in evaluate? Obviously they would not be allowed to do that as since it’s a single-seater, you need to have a pilot go through the complete training cycle before he would be qualified to fly the F-35. The same applied to South Korea. Given that they are a member of the JPO and that they have access to more information & simulator time than they could ever get from Boeing, Eurofighter, or any other manufacturer proposing a fighter to Denmark, this issue is a non-starter.
IGNORE THE FOLLOWING… (thanks swerve & sorry to all the Danish & Dutch readers that I likely insulted) that’s what I get for commenting before coffee 😉
5 minutes on Google would have shown that the first Dutch F-35 unit was stood up in November of last year
http://www.codeonemagazine.com/f35_news_item.html?item_id=1371
and that they are actively participating in OT flights at Edwards AFB
That doesn’t matter.. They are not suggesting that Denmark should buy from Boeing
From the original article:
Therefore, it is time to reconsider the myth of the F-35 as the favorite in the Danish combat aircraft and to look to the F-18 Super Hornet, which may not be the sexiest choice, but who can deliver what Denmark needs, to a affordable price.
Sure sounds like they are pushing for SH.
Let’s call it what it is.
The best pilot of the three has not flown a modern multi-role fighter (F-16A/B with Block1/10), one has only flown 2nd generation jets (F-100), and the last never got out of Fighter Flight school.
Given their complete lack of experience with modern fighters, Boeing “influence”, and their choice of the SH… do you still think the article is valid?
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Google translated from: http://politiken.dk/debat/kroniken/ECE2795725/joint-strike-fighter-er-maaske-bare-ikke-det-rigtige-fly/
The 3 authors are former pilots with a total of 100 years of experience(!)
To NOBODY’s surprise, the pilot’s story had Boeing “advising” them.
Also these tidbits:
1. For the pilot with the most recent (important clue there) experience was 1000 hrs in a F-16 from 1980-1984.
2. Next up is a pilot that has not flown fighters since the F-100!!!!
3. Last and certainly least, is a pilot who washed out of F-16 training after 15hrs in the air.
Speaking as a resident of Southern California…BS
The only “drought” problem we have in California is the complete lack of leadership at the State level. I could go on for hours about how inept they are and how it’s got us into the issues we have now, but for now I’ll leave you with this tidbit that will put the water issue into perspective.
The almond crop in California, on it’s own, uses more water than all the people in all of Southern California combined.
The growers in Central California are not regulated in any way. They can pump as much water as they want, there are no meters for most of them.
It take over a gallon of water to produce one almond.
About 30-40 almonds are used to make a half-gallon of Almond Milk
The almond association has announced plans to EXPAND operations in California.
70% of the almonds grown in California are exported.
So, in essence we are exporting our water while in a drought…. that’s California Leadership for you.
The Vendetta wingspan is 54′ and the F-35 is between 35′ and 43′.
The authors are talking about individual pieces of the airframe and how the LO shaping is handled.
Shrinking the width of the plane by 20 to 35 % is not going to make it magically vastly more reflective to your radar.
As you can see there is very little difference between RCS values when used on a VLO designed airframe.
There is no such thing as a “dedicated anti-VLO long wavelength search radar”

So you found all those things “odd” but not this one?
Pretty amazing to not only detect but also classify the Su-35 350 nautical miles away! Seems that in addition to the amazing F-35 sensors the Russians are clueless when it comes to controlling their EM emissions from their latest and greatest fighter…
Flying 40+ km apart requires the use of datalinks which will likely be picked up by the F-35s.
Remember that Parliamentary testimony has stated that the F-35 has three times the methods to identify an object than even the F-22.
Even with that, 350nm is a bit much 🙂
Msphere read the article again. TIM ROBINSON said that even with Amraam C the outcome was the same. Nice try.
FIFY
Russia’s economy shrank by 4.6% in the second quarter of this year, posting the worst performance since the crippling recession of 2009, the state statistics agency reported Monday.
http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-russia-economy-contracts-20150810-story.html
Russia’s economy contracted by 4.6 per cent in the second quarter compared with the same period in 2014, the largest drop in six years, marking the country’s first recession since the financial crisis in 2009.
According to figures published last month, the slide in consumer spending deepened in the second quarter with retail sales falling by 9.4 per cent in June. Growth in the industrial sector, which had been flat in the first three months of the year, also dropped by almost 5 per cent in the second quarter.
“With oil prices having fallen further over the past few months it remains too soon to speak about a recovery,” said Liza Ermolenko, an analyst with Capital Economics.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a4b9944c-3f77-11e5-b98b-87c7270955cf.html#axzz3iYbTt4kc
Battered by a combination of falling oil prices, the ruble devaluation and sanctions imposed following the Ukrainian conflict, Russia’s economy contracted by 4.6 percent in the second quarter compared with a year earlier, according to the country’s statistics office. After a decline of 2.2 percent in the previous quarter, this marks Russia’s deepest recession since the 2008-2009 financial crisis.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/11/russias-economy-is-in-a-pit-according-to-economists.html
You’re right.. they are doing just fine 😮
Maint on the SU-35S will not only affect it’s RCS, but also it’s radar, missiles, avionics, and engines.
Btw, I am talking real world RCS, not lab values for the F-35.
The F-22 is doing just fine RCS-wise and the F-35 is much easier than the F-22. In fact, the F-22 is borrowing some of the F-35’s RCS tech to help lower it’s own costs and raise it’s availability rate.
I have seen many weapons planned for Block 4 integration.. SDB-II, JSM, even B61-12.. But METEOR was not among them.. In fact, METEOR is not yet planned for any Block.
It’s tentatively scheduled for Block 4. I say “tentatively” because at this time there is no “official” Block4 list of features but Meteor is on the latest graphic of Block 4.2 or 4.3 potential upgrades.

KPP doesn’t mean squat.. What matters is practical experience.
Current experience has shown that the VLO of the F-35 is VERY robust and relatively easy to maintain, especially in relation tot he F-117, B-2, and F-22.
IMHO, the F-35s will spend a great portion of their life flying with subnominal RCS values because the users will find the RCS treatment a good place to start saving on maintenance cost..
That’s your opinion.. What makes you think the maintenance for the SU-35 will fair any better considering that their economy is in the middle of a tailspin brought on by the downturn in global oil prices that was just exacerbated by China’s devaluation of it’s Yuan?
