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  • in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2392481
    SpudmanWP
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    Jackjack, IIRC the numbers in Wiki (source no longer avail) has to do with total costs, not SDD.

    This includes test articles, fuel, parts, etc.

    in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2392512
    SpudmanWP
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    FMS sales outside the contributing partners is completely up the the JPO at the time the contact is signed.

    in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2392560
    SpudmanWP
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    A non-US buyer pays significantly less for the F-35 than the US taxpayer will simply because, depending upon their tier, it pays little or nothing for the cost of developing the aircraft.

    Here is a breakdown of the Development Costs taken from the latest MOU. You will notice that while some partners are paying less as a part of the Development, their Per-Airframe cost of Development is virtually the same no mater who they are.

    Participant Maximum Contribution Airframes Per Airframe<br />
    Australia 690,000,000 100 6,900,000<br />
    Canada 551,000,000 80 6,887,500<br />
    Denmark 330,000,000 48 6,875,000<br />
    Italy 904,000,000 131 6,900,763<br />
    The Netherlands 586,000,000 85 6,894,118<br />
    Norway 330,000,000 48 6,875,000<br />
    Turkey 690,000,000 100 6,900,000<br />
    United Kingdom 952,000,000 138 6,898,551<br />
    United States 16,843,000,000 2443 6,894,392<br />

    in reply to: F-35 news thread II #2392771
    SpudmanWP
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    MSphere, your Moroco F-16 cost is way off. You are only looking at the second of two contracts when you came up with the $842mil for the 24 F-16s. There was an initial contract for $233mil. The whole contract is worth $2.4 billion.

    The details of the purchase are here.

    in reply to: F-35 news thread II #2392783
    SpudmanWP
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    I don’t know.. I personally find that flyaway price (pure airframe cost+systems+engine+avionics) a totally useless figure because it seldom appears published and cannot be taken as a base for comparison.

    While that “may” be true of partner or FMS orders, the DoD has very detailed cost records for any fighter program.

    Btw, why can’t it be taken for comparison?

    in reply to: F-35 news thread II #2394257
    SpudmanWP
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    The F-22 can forward data to the rest of the network via BACN and is getting fitted with MADL to communicate directly with F-35s, B-2s, an AWACS (likely).

    in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2396492
    SpudmanWP
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    I agree. The F-22A is close to the F-117A, than comes the B-2A. When all promises will come true the F-35 will follow before the B-1B.

    Still not quite right.

    In terms of RCS , it goes F-22 < F-35 < B-2 < F-117

    in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2397230
    SpudmanWP
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    Neither LM nor the DoD has ever claimed that the F-35’s VLO features are better than the F-22’s.

    btw, The whole “marble, golfball, etc” RCS quote was from the DoD, not LM.

    in reply to: An alternative to the F-35 #2397243
    SpudmanWP
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    Um, no.. The F-35 has better VLO features than the F-117.

    The less stealthy (and much cheaper) F-35, is equal to a metal golf ball. The F-35 stealthiness is a bit better than the B-2 bomber, which, in turn, was twice as good as that on the even older F-117.

    in reply to: Questions about JDRAM and F-22/F-35 #2397628
    SpudmanWP
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    The JDRADM’s warhead can actually direct it’s blast at a SPECIFIC point on the target aircraft. Imagine a missile that aims for the cockpit or engine.

    in reply to: Buddy Re-fuelling Stores on the F-35 B? #2398228
    SpudmanWP
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    All B/C models come with the P&D system. It is the A version that will have a boom system (USAF) but still have room in the nose for the P&B (partner nations).

    in reply to: Buddy Re-fuelling Stores on the F-35 B? #2398372
    SpudmanWP
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    There is room in the A model for the probe as some partner nations requested it.

    in reply to: Comparison F 15 E- SU 34 Fullback! #2398636
    SpudmanWP
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    PGMs were in their infancy in the 70’s.

    in reply to: F-35 news thread II #2398640
    SpudmanWP
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    in reply to: F-35 news thread II #2398731
    SpudmanWP
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    According to publicly available data, the program / aircraft will cost significantly more than envisioned

    If LM can produce LRIP-4 for 40% under what CAPE estimated (the basis for the above “public data”), what will this say about CAPE’s credibility with it’s own estimates?

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