We? You weren’t even born at those times, don’t even try to earn any credits for it..
Let me make it more relevent..
We should have let Sadam Husein take over Kuwait, Saudia Arabia, and the rest of the peninsula.
There is one big difference between the F-23’s face and the F-32’s face.. Angle.
What little part of the F-23’s face that can be seen is restricted to a certain angle (in elevation and aspect off the beam). What this means is that the only way that someone can see your engine face (or blocker) is if they are way off to one side and way below you. Even then the angle changes in a flash and they can no longer see the face. Add to that the fact that even though they can “see” the face from that angle, their radar beams will not bounce straight back as they are hitting the face at an extreme angle.
None of that applies to the F-32 as they can see it, from a 90 degree angle, head on.

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/lockheed-ceo-f-35a-price-to-drop-below-100m-in-next-contract
fruition at last, if this includes engine, there’s no point in EF/rafale/F-18
Depends on what’s included.
If it’s RecFlyaway, then it’s already under $100mil.
If it’s full Flyaway, then maybe.
If it’s full Weapons System Cost (ie Flyaway + initial support, tools, parts, non-recurring items, etc) then NWIH it’s under $100mil in LRIP 10.)
For contextal sake, the often claimed $85mil has always referenced the Flyaway price.
they care about the political support for any crusade
You’re so right… We should have just left Europe to the Nazis, Africa to the Italians, and the Pacific to the Japanese.
All this debate about the engine face makes little sense.. There’s obviously more to it than just hidden/not hidden..
If Boeing/Grumman, after having designed B-2A or BoP, and Sukhoi, after having evaluated S.47, still make a stealth design with engine blades visible, then it has to mean something..
There is one part of the equation that nobody has public access to that makes all the difference.. What is the spec?
Questions are not the problem….
Uninformed “experts” injecting their “opinion” in place of facts are the problem.
Panel: Trump Comments on F-18, F-35 Could Foreshadow New Defense Priorities
https://news.usni.org/2017/01/23/panel-trump-comments-f-18-f-35
Speaking of which, here’s a thought to help Boeing, provide a pivot to ISIS (or terrorism in general), and reduce costs in the process.
Buy the OV-10X from Boeing.
Take their OV-10X proposal and update it with the 4-bladed prop of the OV-10G+ which should get their “normal service ceiling” above the 30,000ft level.
With the advent of cheap PGMs like APKWS and guided cannon shells, it’s a no brainier. You can even slap on DIRCM pods for high threat situations.
I’ve been looking for a picture of an RAF nimrod with a full weapons load.
Here is one with a full internal load. I have found only “company artist renderings” for external loads so far.

I have always wondered why the Nimrod had such an odd fuselage profile and not being from the UK, I never had the drive to figure it out… till I saw this. Turns out it’s a normal fusalage profile with an unpressurised weapons & sensor “bulge” the entire length of the plane. Smart.

They are already grasping with the introduction of the SH as it seems: recently it surfaced that they might be somewhat short of pilots. So hurrying the 35 in might not be something clever.
The F-35 are replacing classic Hornets in Australia so they will transition those pilots to the F-35, no shortage.
When did Australia ordered 16 planes. Australia procurement is now very slow.
They already have 2, 8 are in LRIP10 (delivery in FY2018) with the other 4 are in LRIP11 (FY2019 delivery).
Can we not post “news” (aka Click-Bait) from National Interest in the “News Section” please?
It’s hardly ever “news” and always involves more opinion than fact.
US allow anything what can be paid. and there is no defense company in the world having more money to spend on lobbying than LockMart..
30 seconds with Google tells me you are wrong.
In 2016 Boeing was #1 and LM #2
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/indusclient.php?id=D01&year=2016
Looking back 10 years, LM was never #1 which was either Boeing (most of the time), Northrup, or United.
In other words, there are a few companies in the US that have heavily outspent LM for lobbying.
Do please share this “official report”.
Per the latest DOT&E report
Air tracks often split erroneously or multiple false tracks on a single target are created when all sensors contribute to the fusion solution. The workaround during early developmental testing was to turn off some of the sensors to ensure multiple tracks did not form, which is unacceptable for combat and violates the basic principle of fusing contributions from multiple sensors into an accurate track and clear display to gain situational awareness and to identify and engage enemy targets.
Note the “early development” language which leads me to believe it’s not a huge problem anymore.
I don’t say they can’t be adressed, simply that as long as they are not, the aircraft can’t use its sensor fusion we’ve been so much talked about.
That’s OK since the issue is with the still in development Block 3F. IOC USAF & USMC blocks 2B/3i do not have this issue.
Identical situations were reported in the past with ..
Same with Block 3i.
When they introduced new hardware (Tech Refresh 2) the timing of the sensor feeds was a little off and caused problems with Block 3i which would delay USAF IOC if not fixed. They went through several QRC (Quick Reaction Cycle) patches and fixed the issue.
Now that they are adding more F-35s to the MADL network (up to 25) and adding more sensors/modes to the fusion engine, the timing is again an issue. This will require more tweaking, testing, and eventual QRCs.