So Air NZ is overtaking Qantas in terms of aircraft maintenance capability?
Very primitive drawing.
It’s merely a conjectural head-on profile of the PAK FA.
Where are the compressor blades?
Oh, you’re not meant to see them to make a plane stealthy.
Also, the lower edge of the ‘intakes’ are not consistent with the belly of the airframe.
Huh? Where are you deriving this information from? The F-119s were specifically designed for prolonged supercruising. They’re not going to be strained at 100nm.
The F119 can supercruise for ~5 minutes at M 1.82 for a maximim distance of ~100 miles (161 kilometers) on internal fuel before it hits bingo fuel state.
Agreed, it doesn’t ring right..
But for how long can the F-22A stay on full Military power, until Tanks are empty?
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With internal fuel, ~20 – 40 minutes, given its maximum ~760 km combat radius. An added ~20 – 30 minutes with two external drop tanks.
Its still a LM/USAF classified?
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Correct. To mislead potential adversaries.
The Gripen is a wonderfully good choice for the RTAF, because the Saab 340 Erieye comes along nicely as the most important accessory in the Gripen package.
At least it gives the Raptor pilot a good rabbit sprint, but for longer than 100 nm, it could really strain the F119 turbofans to the point of auto-shutdown or even self-destruction.
I was thinking the same thing regarding the GSh-30-1. Although, why would they even want two guns in the first place? The GSh-30-1 proved to be extremely accurate during FULCRUM or FLANKER testing (I forget which), to the point that they felt that a reduced ammo load was acceptable, and that even 150 rounds might have been overkill.
Some fighter aircraft of previous generations had more than one cannon.
e.g. some century series fighters had 4 x 20mm M39A2 cannon.
Mirage III, V, F1 and 2000 series of fighters had 2 x DEFA cannon.
The PAK FA’s 2 x GSh-30-1 would have 300 rounds of ammo, compared to the Raptor’s single M61A2 Vulcan, with 480 rounds.
On the first PAK-FA prototype!:
Hmmm.. Two cannons?
Don’t think so.:rolleyes:
Taking up too much space it does.
Two GSh-30-1 single barrel cannons, 150 rounds per gun. There’s enough internal space to accommodate the cannons and ammo containers.
The Engines will be the 117-S(AL-41a1) or possible a further enhanced version(AL-41a2), maybe around 14.500-15.000kgf.
But nothing close to this:
Powerplant: 2× Saturn-Lyulka AL-41F turbofan
o Dry thrust: 96.1 kN (9,800 kgf, 21,605 lbf) each
o Thrust with afterburner: 152 kN (15,500 kgf, 34,172 lbf) eachIf the PAK-FA will obtain supermaneuverability, then i’ll be pretty sure they’ll use the wing construction developed on the Su-27 series since it’s THE best wing construction out there to this day concerning supermanuvering.
They’ll use a trapezoidal wing configuration similar to the F-22 Raptor, but more simplistic.
Very sad news indeed. No matter what went on in his private life, he was one of the most incredible performers there has been. His music broke all kinds of records and inspired many.
I had a ticket for a show on the 16th, one of the first (which I couldn’t make anymore anyway). There are going to be a lot of disappointed and upset people out there. I can’t help but think the tour had put a large strain on him which may have led to this.
If nothing else, he is a father leaving behind three children and a brother leaving behind his siblings.
Some of his songs he sang were great and I have a hard time recalling from memory but I could tell how they sounded.
Sad for his fans to be shocked by the demise of the pop king.
Fact is, if every copy of Michael Jackson’s albums were stacked on one pile, it reached as high as the moon!
Very sad news indeed. No matter what went on in his private life, he was one of the most incredible performers there has been. His music broke all kinds of records and inspired many.
I had a ticket for a show on the 16th, one of the first (which I couldn’t make anymore anyway). There are going to be a lot of disappointed and upset people out there. I can’t help but think the tour had put a large strain on him which may have led to this.
If nothing else, he is a father leaving behind three children and a brother leaving behind his siblings.
Some of his songs he sang were great and I have a hard time recalling from memory but I could tell how they sounded.
Sad for his fans to be shocked by the demise of the pop king.
Fact is, if every copy of Michael Jackson’s albums were stacked on one pile, it reached as high as the moon!
That doesn’t really surprise me as the Akash is nothing more than a modified SA-6 Gainful.
Can you prove that?
Here are some details of the Akash SAM, released by DRDO.
Can’t access the list but if it contains the Iraqi aircraft that fled to Iran during GW1 then it must be a pretty long list.:D
Captain Munir Redfa, IQAF, defected with his MiG-21F-13 on August 16, 1966 to Israel under the guise of a training mission.
It was an elaborate top secret Mossad operation to get their hands on the most advanced fighter in the Arab air forces. Mossad agents successfully evacuated his extended family to Israel, fleeing religious persecution.
The Israeli Air Force rigorously tested the MiG, piloted by Danny Shapira, against their frontline fighter, the Dassault Mirage IIICJ “Shahak” (Hebrew = sky blazer). They found it to be lighter than the Shahak but it had poor rear visibility.
If an Israeli pilot flew 150 meters behind the MiG-21 and slightly below it, the MiG pilot would never see his enemy.
If the “T-50-49” is/was real, it could confirm the weight of the pakfa (around 15 tons, hopefully less), since for modern technology a single engine design would only fit for that weight, but then, i doubt on any information’s release on that program, we have seen also another “t50-XX” which is basically a copy of the 22, although that is not rare on Russian development, since we have seen before f-15osky, 16osky in the development phase
Anyway, re the Russians still using the “t-50” nomination?, was not “t50” the name of the early pakfa model?
T-50 was the pre-official designation. T stood for conventional fixed wing.
NO. I have written that T-50-49 it is the early concept of an lightweight variant of a PAK FA. Real PAK FA has weight between Su-27 and MiG-29.
And don’t afraid, PAK FA is not raptorski.Yes.
T-50:
T- triangle wing
50- 5th generation
PAK FA is a Raptorski. Russian counterpart of F-22.
Anyway, it would be the size of a World War II medium to heavy bomber (as current generation fighter aircraft tend to be). Check out the specs:
General characteristics
* Crew: 1 (pilot)/2(crew)for Indian variant
* Length: 22.0 m (72 ft 2 in)
* Wingspan: 14.2 m (46 ft 7 in)
* Height: 6.05 m (19 ft 10 in)
* Wing area: 78.8 m² (848 ft²)
* Empty weight: 18,500 kg (40,786 lb)
* Loaded weight: 26,000 kg (57,320 lb)
* Useful load: 7,500 kg (16,535 lb)
* Max takeoff weight: 37,000 kg (81,571 lb)
* Powerplant: 2× Saturn-Lyulka AL-41F turbofan
o Dry thrust: 96.1 kN (9,800 kgf, 21,605 lbf) each
o Thrust with afterburner: 152 kN (15,500 kgf, 34,172 lbf) each
Performance
* Maximum speed: Mach 2+ at altitude
* Cruise speed: 1,300 km/h (807.8 mph)
* Ferry range: 4,000 to 5,500 km (2,485 to 3,418 mi)
* Rate of climb: 350 m/s (68,898 ft/min)
* Wing loading: 470 kg/m² (96.3 lb/ft²)
* Thrust/weight: 0.84 (dry thrust)
* Minimum thrust/weight:
o With afterburner: 1.19
* Runway length requirement: 350 m (1,148 ft)
* Endurance: 3.3 hrs (198 mins)
Armament
* Guns: 2 × 30 mm internal cannon
* Hardpoints: 8 total, 4 on each side of the aircraft.
Avionics
* Radar: N050(?)BRLS AESA/PESA Radar (Enhancement of IRBIS-E) on SU-35
o Frequency: 3 Cm (0.118 in) (X-band)
o Diameter: 0.7 m (2 ft 4 in)
o Targets: 32 tracked, 8 engaged
o Range: 400 km (248 mi)
+ EPR: 3 m² (32.3 ft²) at 160 km (99.4 mi)
+ RCS: 0.01 m² at 90 km (55 mi)
+ Azimuth: +/-70°, +90/-50°
o Power: 4,000 W
o Weight: 65 to 80 kg (143 to 176 lb)
Indo-Israeli Barak 8 SAM
India and Israel have agreed to expand their already considerable missile development cooperation with an even longer-range version of their extended-range Barak ship defense system, this time for the Indian Air Force.
Sources from both countries say they expect to sign an add-on development contract by early next year, following last month’s conclusion of a memorandum of agreement between Indian defense research authorities and prime contractor Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI).
This was reported by ‘Deccan Herald’.
The new land-based air defense system will feature a range of 150 kilometers, more than double that of the supersonic, vertically launched Barak-8, or BarakNG (New Generation) now being developed for the Indian Navy.
“We’ve agreed to extend our ongoing BarakNG project with a longer-range missile capable of performing additional missions and meeting a larger array of threats,” one Israeli source said in early July, noting that India’s fiscal year ends in March 2008. “We’re all looking to sign a contract by the end of the fiscal year.”
The program, he said, is “a natural extension” of the approximately $480 million, five-year contract concluded in early 2006 between the Indian Defence Research Development Organization (DRDO) and IAI.
Indian Defence Ministry sources said Israeli partners have agreed to transfer all technologies and manufacturing capabilities relevant to the co-development program. They noted that the new land-based air defense system — a planned replacement for the Indian Air Force’s Russian-made Pechora surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) — would provide full hemispheric, 360-degree interception coverage against existing and future threats.
Sources declined to provide projected program costs, but estimated the effort would take about four years and a minimum of $300 million to develop unique system elements and an initial tranche of the land-based missiles.
The Indian Air Force has a requirement for nine advanced air defense squadrons, each of which will feature two SAM units. A typical unit will include an acquisition radar, a guidance radar, a command-and-control center and three launchers with eight missiles apiece.
Yossi Weiss, general manager of IAI’s Systems, Missiles and Space Group, said in mid-May the Barak-8 air defense system under development would be “more capable and more sophisticated” than the U.S.-developed Patriot PAC-3. He declined to discuss details of the firm’s ongoing cooperation with India, and did not offer any information regarding new longer-range versions of the Barak-based system.
India’s top ballistic missile scientist, Vijay Kumar Saraswat, said in December that India was no longer interested in buying the PAC-3, United Press International reported.
Indian defense experts said the new land-based, longer-range Barak system also would benefit the Indian Navy, which is methodically pursuing longer-range capabilities since the 2004 approval of its Blue Water Navy doctrine.
The deal extends arms-manufacturing ties with Israel even as India reaches out to other regional countries such as Iran and Qatar, with which New Delhi recently signed a groundbreaking agreement to codify defense cooperation.
Tactical Defense System
Gurpreet Khurana, a Navy commander and a defense analyst of the Institute of Defence Studies and Analysis (IDSA), a New Delhi think tank, called the long-range Barak a tactical defense system, not a strategic or offensive one.
“A longer-range anti-missile system has become imperative today, with the increased [120-kilometer] range of anti-ship missiles like the Harpoons,” Khurana said. “Besides, the missile platforms have a stand-off firing capability — the P-3C Orion can launch the missile at an Indian Carrier Battle Group, without even entering the air-defense zone. In any case, interception of missiles at longer ranges is necessary, particularly to prevent saturation of air-defense response.”
The latest Barak-based co-development project marks the third phase of Indo-Israeli cooperation based on the air defense system by IAI and Israel’s Rafael Armament Development Authority. The cooperation began in 2001 with a $270 million deal for the basic Barak ship defense system. Mutual satisfaction with system performance and Israeli willingness to engage in technology transfers led in January 2006 to the 70-kilometer-range BarakNG program.
“This has been a phenomenally successful cooperative program, which has served as a springboard to all kinds of other potential projects,” an Israeli industry source said.
He estimated that the three Barak-based missile development efforts combined exceed $1.3 billion.
Indian Defence Ministry sour-ces said scientists from the government’s DRDL missile laboratory in Hyderabad are already working in Israel on the BarakNG program.
In a June 29 conference in Hyderabad, Indian President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam praised the growing cooperation between India and Israel, particularly the cooperation with IAI. His guest of honor at the event, hosted by the Aeronautical and Astronautical Societies of India, was Itzhak Nissan, IAI’s president and chief executive, who has led Barak and other missile and space cooperative development projects with India for more than a decade.
Noting that IAI is partner “on some of the most advanced projects in the world,” Nissan expressed high regard for the scientific and manufacturing capabilities that India contributes to joint development efforts, according to an IAI account of the event, released July 2.
Indo-Israeli defense ties have been on the upswing since 1999, despite the opposition of the Indian leftist parties that helped bring the ruling United Progressive Alliance government to power. Today, Israel trails only Russia in defense exports to India. New Delhi has bought UAVs and electronic warfare systems for MiG aircraft, has received technology for the Barak missile, Phalcon radar for the Indian AWACS program and the advanced Green Pine radar for India’s homegrown air defense program, Indian Defence Ministry sources said.
“While it is commonly known that Israel is India’s second-largest defense supplier, what is not generally known is the large number of platforms, such as AWACS to fighter aircraft, ships and tanks, on which the Israelis are providing systems support,” said defense analyst Rahul Bhonsle, a retired Indian Army brigadier.
“One can even expect a stranglehold of the Israeli defense suppliers unless India works out very detailed and foolproof integrity and sustenance clauses in their agreements,” Bhonsle said. “This also implies a strategic long-term relationship as that between Russia and India today.”
Found an article that suggests that there may be some possibility of export to Japan.
FTA:
“Sen. Dan Inouye (D-Hawaii) has told the Japanese government that a fleet of 40 Raptors – desensitized for foreign military sales – would cost about $11.6 billion with deliveries of combat-ready stealth fighters beginning in 2014.But while congressional support for the F-22 is creating a lot of political interest and support, aerospace industry analysts say it’s all just rhetoric unless someone in the executive branch – preferably from the White House — steps up to support extended Raptor production and export of the stealthy, 5th generation fighter. So far, that has not happened.
However, some very heavy hitters are supporting both continued production and sales to Japan, in particular. Sen. Dan Inouye (D-Hawaii) and Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) are pushing both in public and behind the scene.”
Here’s a PDF file about a possible F-22 Raptor export to Japan.
And an enemy jet would stand out like a speck in the night sky through your NVGs.
It’s even easier to see a missile fired at you, as if you saw a lit cigarette the size of a matchstick, flying toward you.