Fantastic images, Gavin. Thanks for posting. 🙂
GR4 “counts” as nuclear-capable under (?CFCE), so could displace an earlier NATO/US B61-capable platform, such as Turk/Hellenic F-4E. But really why would they bother? If the User could persuade Russia they were solely for iron bomb work, say to displace Hellenic A-7E, other types, new or used, would be cheaper to own. Greece reached that conclusion when UK offered F-4M free! Current Tornado Users will run their assets down such that at each removal from inventory they are.., ah, in need of some (expensive) attention.
The Russians have withdrawn from CFE.
Great atmospheric shots. Thanks for sharing!
Great dramatic sky. Thanks for sharing and please post more!
Air Force Releases F-15 Crash Animation
http://video.nbc10.com/player/?id=203425
Some F-15Cs were active at Lakenheath on the 9th Jan.
Wow you guys are really funny most of the crap that has been said on this thread is just that crap. Please does anyone really think that the United States would launch a full scale Air war. You guys must be smoking some real good stuff.
If we ever did decide to do an air strike it would be with Stand off Cruise Missle lanched from B-2/B-1 and B-52 along with ship launch Cruise Missle why risk pilots. As for well are Intel isn’t that good really and who say this the media please if you believe that then I have some real nice Beach Front Property in Nevada for sale.
Give it a rest folks:D 😮 :p
The B-2 and B-1 don’t carry ALCM. The only ALCM carrier in the USAF is the B-52H. The B-2 would be crucial in deploying JDAMs onto vital targets. Cruise missiles can’t do everything. Stealth platforms would be heavily involved in any air strike.
U.S. says Iranian gunboats harassed warships
Some interesting news above.
No doubt the conspiracy nuts will be claiming that Iran shot them down!
‘2 Hornets crash in Persian Gulf, crews safe’
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/01/navy_hornets_crash_080107w/
‘Staff report
Posted : Monday Jan 7, 2008 15:44:08 EST
Two F/A-18 Super Hornet fighter jets from the carrier Harry S. Truman collided in midair over the northern Persian Gulf on Monday afternoon. Rescue teams saved the three aviators involved in the crash and safely returned all three to the ship.
The two planes — a single-pilot F/A-18E and a two-seat F/A-18F from the Truman’s embarked Carrier Air Wing 3 — were flying over the Gulf en route to a close air support mission in Iraq when the two Super Hornets crashed into each other, according to an official Navy statement.
The Super Hornets’ mission to Iraq makes it unlikely their collision was related to an incident Monday at the south end of the Persian Gulf when five Iranian attack boats harassed three U.S. warships emerging from the Strait of Hormuz, said 5th Fleet commander Vice Adm. Kevin Cosgriff, speaking to reporters at the Pentagon via a satellite video link.
The naval aviators returned to the Truman by helicopter for medical treatment and are reportedly in “good condition,” Cosgriff said.’
The only way thats possible is if the U.S destroys thier airdefences/aircraft in the first 2-3 days,(which they won’t)
Of course not, how silly of me to forget about the secret airfields! :rolleyes:
Well they will fly thier Chinese antiship missiles into them I know that, you Americans always make things look easy/one sided on paper, and then have the nerve to accuse Russians of doing it, :rolleyes:
LOL wrong again! What makes you think that I am a U.S. citizen?
There you go 1Man! Imagine all those ‘Saeqe jet fighters which cannot be discovered by radar’ taking off from those ‘secret air bases’?!
http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-17/0801063451003932.htm
‘Iran-Army-Plane
Commander of the Air Force of the Islamic Republic Army Brigadier General Ahmad Mighani said here Saturday that the Iranian army is to produce the fourth and fifth generations of Saeqe jet fighters which cannot be discovered by radar.’
We’ll have to waite and see, btw you do know that during the DesertStorm the coallition lost 63 planes (38 U.S.) Iran will do more than 38
You do realise how many combat sorties the Coalition flew during the Gulf in 1991? And for those losses how much equipment did the Iraqi’s lose? Consider how many Iraqi aircraft were lost in comparison? Chased from the skies and waiting to get plinked all they could do was fly hundreds to Iran.
The Iranian air force chiefs of staff know that they will lose their airfields and with it a large proportion of their fighter capability. Do you think they are going to sit down and explain that to the Iranian leaders? No, of course not.
The Iranians leaders believe that their air force will be slicing the ‘infidels’ from the sky! No Iranian air force chief is going to risk losing his job by giving the leadership a reality check. They are quite happy to continue flying their aircraft for as long as possible. They are quite content to put on a propaganda show in extensive annual exercises and have praise and decorations languished upon them. In a conflict with the U.S. the Iranians would be better off flying their aircraft up the Caspian Sea to sanctuary in Russia.
Meanwhile the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Air Force nutters will be attempting to fly their bombed up Su-25s into U.S. aircraft carriers. 1man, how far do you think they will get? Remember to tune into ‘Tehran Bob’ to see the Iranians churning out snippets of western vessels being blown up in old test footage.
The Backfire D codename was assigned to the Tu-22M3R (Tu-22MR). The recce variant.
Well like I said they can’t hit what they can’t see or know is an airbase, for all we know Iran could have already built these bases 2003/4 so one would have to post a U.S. military links showing “No construction has be built in odd area’s as off today”
So now they’ve already built them? Make your mind up will you?! Built them and saving them for a rainy day! Utter nonsense. And these bases are for operation of such aircraft as F-14s, F-5s and F-4s. Remember that F-4 and F-14 bases are going to get their runways plinked, yet you have these airframes escaping to and operating from these ‘secret airbases’. How long do you think that these ‘secret bases’ now crammed with aircraft will go undetected in conflict?
You are aware of how long a runway an F-14 or F-4 requires, yet you continue to believe that such a structure, or its construction will not be visible by overhead collection? What next? Have they covered them up all with sand and will sweep them clear when the ‘infidels’ come?! I’ll leave you to your world of fantasy!
Your the one living in a fantasy world if your thinking the U.S. is just gonna go and destroy thier bases without at least 10-15 planes shot down, Don’t act as if I said they’re not going to loose the war, all I was saying is the different things they could/would do, and I said that they would buld these bases only when they knew an attack would be coming in a short time, and what I’m saying is they wouldn’t put airdefences on these secret bases, so they would be detected by U.S. ecm’s, thats my thinking, I could be wrong but thats what I think.
BTW you do know they modifide alot of thier F-5’s, so we don’t know if they now can fly off of desert ground, or what thier capable of.
10-15 B-2s shot down? You are aware that the B-2 can plink runways and runway infrastructure from height? Iran currently has no solution to such a bomber force roaming in its skies. One of the first things to go in the run up to OIF was the Iraqi antenna fields associated with their experiments with OTH radar. Similar OTH radar facilities in Iran would also be gone.
If you think that Iran can build off-base operating infrastructure in such a short period then you definately are living in a fantasy world. Aircrew require to be trained to operate from such strips. I know it is what you think and you are entitled to your opinion, but in all reality it is fantasy talk. Iran is in exactly the same position as Iraq was in 1991 in relation to their airfields and airfield infrastructure.
Yes airbases can be built somewhere else and made small, for an imediate war, scince the U.S. will be coming from the west, they can put the planes closer to Iraq, and away from there normal bases, the U.S. wouldn’t know were they’re at unless they’re seem putting the planes, there, and ofcourse your gonna reply with that same excuse of “The U.S. will be watching evrywhere they’ll be no room to move” well that doesn’t happen in the real world, I’m not saying they will do this exactly like I’m describing, but they’ll do things that won’t be expected.
Still not thinking 1Man. For your ‘secret airbase’ magic plan to work the Iranians would have to be deploying and exercising on a regular basis. All those Iranian large scale exercises over the years and those ‘small secret airbases – close to the Iraqi border’ are not visible?
Think about it 1man! You are aware that such bases have to be protected by air defences. The movement and deployment testing and training of air defences cue such assets as imagery. You simply can’t hide an ‘airbase’ as you describe it. You have to train and deploy for such off-base operations under realistic conditions. Such aircraft as F-14s, F-4s, and F-5 – the bulk of the Iranian air assets – require clean paved operating surfaces. You can’t simply hide such an expanse of fixed infrastructure and the deployment of large numbers of fighter aircraft to such a base. How are you going to cover up aircraft heat signatures/afterburner plumes from overhead collection systems?
You might as well be telling me that the F-14s and F-5s are going to be zero-length launched from under cover of mosque domes! On the command the mosques domes are going to open up and the fighters launched!
I’m afraid that you are living in a fantasy world! The Iranians are exactly in the same position as the Iraqis in 1991. They have no solution to losing their large paved airfields.
1Man wrote
There are no Arab names on flight 77
Duh!
Are you conspiracy guys still using those initial lists as evidence?
Those initial lists that appeared in the media weren’t passenger manifests. The numbers and names listed were clearly marked as victims. You do understand the concept?
And how do you explain the martyrdom videos released by Al Qaeda? Other Al Qaeda videos and accounts, I believe, were also released in 2007 by Al Q.
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/10/video-aq-celebrates-the-911-hijackers/
No doubt you also believe that Bin Laden and Al-Zawahiri are making these videos and audio tapes from the safety of Area 51?
1MAN wrote
2. The U.S. Military put that “canister” there inorder to justify “evidence” Iraq had WMD’s 1 canister would not have been found but thousands, if Iraq had WMD’s, oh but wait, you’ll have to stay there another 10 years to find the rest right
Read the report. The munitions were deemed to be the remnants of the Iraqi WMD programme. You are aware that hundreds of tons of WMD were destroyed by the U.N? Even the Iraqi’s couldn’t account for every shell produced or say with certainty that they were all destroyed. The U.N. investigation teams found that the Iraqi marking of chemical shells was not uniform. Even in 2002 UNSCOM were still finding chemical shells at sites previously searched. Do you not think that under such chaos that some of the thousands of tons of WMD were going to be unaccounted for?
Read the UNSCOM report
http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/s/990125/dis-chem.htm
Here is the UNSCOM findings at Al Muthanna during 1996. Even though the site had been searched in 1996 UNMOVIC inspectors were still finding mustard-gas artillery rounds in 2002.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iraq/muthanna.htm
From a 1996 inspection
“62. As a consequence, the decision was taken to excavate several destroyed buildings at Al Muthanna, the site of Iraq’s largest chemical weapons research and production facility. Since their aerial bombardment in February 1991, access to the buildings had been considered impossible owing to safety considerations. Nevertheless the Commission decided that it should make a major effort to excavate the site. From 24 February to 10 March 1996, UNSCOM 129B, an international team of 26 inspectors, excavated six sections of buildings at Al Muthanna and searched a number of other areas and buildings.
63. During this dangerous and demanding mission, the team discovered and retrieved some 5,000 pages of printed materials. These included numerous bound volumes, memoranda, organizational papers, booklets, letters, archive records, approximately 100 computer discs, books, catalogues and published journals. Some articles were intact, while others were in fragments. In addition, the team removed some 80 munitions and components, including 122 millimetre artillery chemical warheads and 155 millimetre “binary” artillery shells. Iraq contributed to the success of the inspection through the provision of technical support, including labour and heavy engineering equipment. This assistance was given without any problems or delays. The Commission’s experts are currently working on the translation and analysis of the newly recovered material. These results may help speed up the verification of Iraq’s declarations in the chemical weapons area.”