If a NOTAM was released for a missile launch, and especially a ballistic, then it would state ‘MISSILE’ or ‘UNMANNED MISSILE’. The Naval Air Warfare centre NOTAMs are nothing unusual. Too many conspiracy theorists are relying on that Air Warfare Centre NOTAM as proof positive.
http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/ntm/not0601.html
TJ
Some more video footage from California. More evidence of how aircraft contrails can be misinterpreted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vNCCkd7Qsg
‘This footage was taken in Orange County California on November 9th, 2010 between 5pm and 5:30pm. One day after the original controversial missile footage was taken. Is it a second mystery?
It was taken from the 4th floor offices of Binary Pulse Technology Marketing through heavily tinted windows. It was taken with a commercial-grade HD camera by a professional cameraman employed by Binary Pulse.
The trail clearly began over the ocean and shot straight up from a billowing cloud of smoke. It then took a sharp change of course, heading south and west…eventually disappearing.’
TJ
Some excellent Flightaware analysis on the following. See webcam footage of another contrail plume 24 hours after the helicopter footage.
http://www.bahneman.com/liem/tmp/it_was_awe808.png
‘Posted by: Liembo | 11/9/10 | 10:22 pm |
My research shows it as AWE808, or UPS902, their altitude (for contrail formation) and position are both pretty close, though I believe 808 is the stronger candidate. I base this one the way AWE808 appeared on the horizon TODAY (Tuesday, Nov. 9) on its same flight path at approximately the same time. I made a screen cap of a Newport Beach webcam with AWE808 making a very familiar contrail to the west.’
From
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/mystery-missile-is-probably-a-jet/
TJ
Looks like an aircraft contrail to me, viewed through a lens which produces extreme foreshortening.
I agree. It is an aircraft contrail. It is all a matter of perspective. It isn’t the first time that such a contrail has caused confusion over the Californian Coast. See images from December 2009 at beginning of following webpage. Scroll down and you will also see other examples. It is all about perspective.
Does any one have the serial numbers of the F4F Phantoms that were at Bruntingthorpe a couple of years Ago??
37+32
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Germany—Air/McDonnell-Douglas-F-4F/1689011/L/
The following has an F-4 cockpit section down as 37+XX
http://www.aeroreg.co.uk/V_Museum/VMuseum-Bruntingthorpe.html
I’m sure that someone will fill in the details?
TJ
Care to explain what you mean? What movements, what technology, which hostile nations, & when would give your comment some meaning, which at present it lacks.
Possibly he is referring to Major Pierre-Henri Bunel and his connection with Yugoslavia?
Acting as an individual he was tried for treason and jailed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Henri_Bunel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1706341.stm
TJ
The USMC use KC-130s, not KC-10s.
Some examples of helo refuelling on You Tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0dEv3rip6o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2W1jh8jLOM
Accident during refuelling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChiwdKGZOlc
TJ
‘First squadron loses its Harriers’
http://www.key.aero/view_news.asp?ID=2688&thisSection=military
TJ
End of an era today for 41(R) Squadron, RAF Coningsby, and their operation of Harriers. Three 41(R) Squadron Harriers GR9s have completed a number of flypasts before landing at RAF Cottesmore.
TJ
How much does it cost to keep 4 Typhoons + ~1000 troops etc. over there/year ?
Some fairly recent figures
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmhansrd/cm100222/text/100222w0006.htm
TJ
I’ve noticed another Harrier book detailing Afghan ops.
A Nightmare’s Prayer: A Marine Harrier Pilot’s War in Afghanistan by Lt Col Mike Franzak.
TJ
And a large garrison of professional troops (6,000?). I fail to see how the Argentines could hope to go through them and the Tiffies with their current equipment – or have the stomach to try.
As unpleasant as these cuts are (my brother’s job may be affected) could not most tin-pot wannabes be dissuaded by RN submarine launched cruise missiles?
Apparently, Guatemala got cold feet over Belize when the two Buccs went downtown – pretty sure some tomahawk-rattling would have a similar effect. Wouldn’t even need to hit anything major, or anything at all – as in the Falklands, where the Argentines believed their own (mis)intelligence about the Vulcan being able to bomb the Argentine mainland at will, the mere possibility should give them sleepless nights.
Playing with the big boys in the sandpit or elsewhere is obviously another story with much more boots/choppers/jets/tanks/arty on the ground required.
So where next – DPRK, Iran or just a few dashing spooks running round London slotting ‘dirty foreigners’ – ‘Spooks’ is based on real events right?
Not 6,000.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmhansrd/cm091012/text/91012w0097.htm
‘Falkland Islands: Military Bases
Mark Pritchard: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what plans he has for the size of the complement serving at the military garrison on the Falkland Islands. [291756]
Bill Rammell: There are some 1,250 UK armed forces personnel based in the South Atlantic Islands, the majority on the Falkland Islands, supported by a small detachment based on Ascension Island. This figure varies during the year due to individual posting plots and unit moves. Force levels are subject to regular review, the last having completed in July 2009, but there are no current plans to change them.’
TJ
Okay stop the bickering…please.
What was the title of the book again? There is a book I’ve seen on Amazon about RAF Harriers in Afghanistan that I was thinking about picking up. Is it the same one?
The Ade Orchard book is
Joint Force Harrier
The true story of a Royal Navy Fighter Squadron at war – Commander Adrian Orchard with James Barrington.
http://www.youtube.com/v/gwNiNcPtL3w?fs=1&hl=en_GB
TJ
Mod Edit: No embedded video, thanks!
The Sea Eagle was withdrawn from UK service(RAF/Royal Navy) in 1999 (April) as part of the Strategic Defence Review. The maritime strike squadrons on Tornado didn’t get any replacement.
TJ
The Mighty Hunter still lives on in the form of the R1. The two in service are due to retire in March 2011. Serial XW664 was on a air test yesterday from RAF Waddington.

DSC_0026-NIMROD-R1-XW664-RA by llihmot, on Flickr

DSC_0016-NIMROD-R1-XW664-RA by llihmot, on Flickr
TJ