A scattering of them usually.

Really, Damien?

Well……given that I was referring to “player close-ups and tackles”, I have to wonder what type of airshows you go to. :confused:

Remove religion, and what reasons ARE THERE for being good?
Tell me, I want to know.

Free will and mutual self-interest, for a start.

There are too many examples of heart-stopping evil and mind-numbing grace in human history for religion to be the sole source of either.

Regardless if you like it or not, we get these beliefs and ethical codes
FROM religion.

And where did religion get them from, if not from within the fundamental nature of humanity? Religions are a human construct, after all, irrespective of the existence (or otherwise) of gods..

It is not a religious position.

And I maintain that it is, Garry. Is this a debate, or a lecture? 😉

To use your own chess analogy, an atheist would still recognise that other people play the game of chess and their reply would be made in that context.

Get a lot of those at airshows, do you? :D:D:D:D

Looks like he’s shooting into the light, too……

Athiesm is a rejection of religion and is therefore not a religion itself.

Garry, I’m afraid you’ve made the same mistake as Mixtec.

I didn’t say that atheism was a religion – that would be nonsense.

I did say that atheism was, and remains, a religious position: theists and atheists alike can offer no empirical evidence to support their beliefs and so must rely on faith.

I have seen nothing here so far that has persuaded me otherwise.