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  • in reply to: Guantanamo Bay #1954244
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    OK, SOC… if it’s all so legal and above board, why is the US Government holding these people outside the jurisdiction and remit of the Constitution and the US courts rather than in the USA itself? Are there no remote islands in Hawaii, for example, that would do just as well?

    And you’re doing this deliberately, aren’t you??? 😮

    in reply to: General Discussion #397008
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    OK, SOC… if it’s all so legal and above board, why is the US Government holding these people outside the jurisdiction and remit of the Constitution and the US courts rather than in the USA itself? Are there no remote islands in Hawaii, for example, that would do just as well?

    And you’re doing this deliberately, aren’t you??? 😮

    in reply to: General Discussion #397014
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    Oh yes….I’m just an ordinary punter in here, greekdude. 🙂

    And Sandy…..look at my very first posting on the thread and stop whingeing, there’s a good chap. 😀

    in reply to: Pilots with guns #1954246
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    Oh yes….I’m just an ordinary punter in here, greekdude. 🙂

    And Sandy…..look at my very first posting on the thread and stop whingeing, there’s a good chap. 😀

    in reply to: Pilots with guns #1954250
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    As they say, Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.

    OK – that’s the first and last NRA slogan in Commercial Aviation. 🙂

    The debate has broadened now – time to move it to GD, I feel.

    in reply to: General Discussion #397028
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    As they say, Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.

    OK – that’s the first and last NRA slogan in Commercial Aviation. 🙂

    The debate has broadened now – time to move it to GD, I feel.

    in reply to: General Discussion #397160
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    No, SOC.

    We’d rather see justice done, the guilty punished and the innocent set free – if it’s OK with you of course.

    And can I ask you – is it hypocritical of the USA to hold people without trial in Cuba when they have consistently criticised the Cuban government for doing the same?

    in reply to: Guantanamo Bay #1954257
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    No, SOC.

    We’d rather see justice done, the guilty punished and the innocent set free – if it’s OK with you of course.

    And can I ask you – is it hypocritical of the USA to hold people without trial in Cuba when they have consistently criticised the Cuban government for doing the same?

    in reply to: A380 : first flight (Merged) #678581
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    Yadda yadda…. :p

    I’ll be watching, so long as my boss isn’t in. 😀

    in reply to: A380 : first flight (Merged) #722476
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    Yadda yadda…. :p

    I’ll be watching, so long as my boss isn’t in. 😀

    in reply to: Boeing reveals final 787 design #678797
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    It looks like a 777 going through a midlife crisis and gained a few pounds round the waist, like my mum!

    Ooooooh! How risky is that??? 😮

    Best hope your Mum never sees that, mate…….. :D:D:D

    in reply to: Boeing reveals final 787 design #722709
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    It looks like a 777 going through a midlife crisis and gained a few pounds round the waist, like my mum!

    Ooooooh! How risky is that??? 😮

    Best hope your Mum never sees that, mate…….. :D:D:D

    in reply to: AC chooses Boeing #678800
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    Oh surely not, J Boyle…… 😉

    in reply to: AC chooses Boeing #722718
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    Oh surely not, J Boyle…… 😉

    in reply to: Guantanamo Bay #1954262
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    I was brought up to believe that capturing people at gunpoint and then locking them up without charge or trial was a Bad Thing.

    I seem to remember that we in the West used to have pretty robust views on nations that acted in that manner.

    Now we seem to have joined their illustrious ranks.

    I honestly don’t give a button what justifications people trot out.

    Look, it’s quite simple…..

    If these prisoners were fighting a war against the forces that toppled the Taliban then they are POWs and are protected by the Geneva Convention. Their treatment to date clearly violates that treaty.

    If they are armed civilians who committed acts of aggression against the US/UK forces, they are criminals who should be tried by due legal process and punished severely if found guilty on the basis of evidence presented to the court. After all, the evidence against them must be pretty clear – I should think they were caught red-handed. But this hasn’t happened either.

    If they are suspected of terrorist offences, then once again they should be tried by due legal process and punished severely if found guilty on the basis of evidence presented to the court. Once again, this isn’t the case.

    Instead, we are told that they are suspected “enemy combatants” – whatever that means. Apparently most of them have dark skins and beards, which seems to be evidence enough for some of you.

    Just one final point – the USA openly holds people without trial in Cuba while at one and the same time castigating the Cuban government for allegedly doing the same.

    If this isn’t hypocrisy then what is it?

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