Aah, but surely YOU are society?
Just as a Church is the people not the building.

Yes I am in Scottish or British society but not HIS society as in French society. That is what I typed in my reply.

I typed HIS SOCIETY as in French and that is what I meant.

No a Church is a building it is where the Church congregation come to meet.

I believe the church have orders to which they belong depending on your faith.

To quote your statement Arthur.

I do not, however, believe in state sponsored murder something that most definitely is not on the side of common decency.

In giving this opinion it seems that you side with the murderer and in some sort of way what he did was decent. Of course I know you didnt mean that. But in killing a child he gave up any rights to a decent life and as such he deseve non less than what he gave. An eye for an eye is the old bblical way of doing things and I think it is about the only thing that came from these stories that I would agree with.

I for one do not care if he lives. I think he should die but it doesnt matter what you or I think does it. It is not us who he is to be tried in front of is it.

And of course you already know that he will be sent to jail so you last comment is null and void.

Madame Guillotine should once more have her revenge once more.

Adler,

Not really going to go into the whole death sentance thing again as I have done this several times over and over on this forum some agree some dont and then we all just have to agree to disagree as it all gets a bit heated.

I am famous within these type of threads for speaking my mind on what should and should not happen. If I were a hangman I would sleep easy in my bed. Who might not sleep easy in their bed might be the judge or the jury. But I for one would indeed carry out the task in hand when dealing with these people. It starts to get messy when you cant draw distinction between what deserves the death sentance and what does not but clearly an adult killing a child is up there for being one crime that does deserve death. But again what are the circumstances maybe a child clearly is the spawn of satan and the poor parents were completely driven to take matters however misguided into their own hands. But in the long run a child is dead in dreadful circumstances and I hate to think of how he suffered before he died that day and long before probably. That is what is wrong with society and it doesnt really matter a hoot what we all think really does it now?

How slowly would you kill this man? I wouldn’t. That isn’t the way civilized states treat criminals.

Maybe its isnt but us Scots arent civilized anyhow and come to think of it neither are you English or Irish or the Welsh for that matter. We have all been killing each other for centuries. :diablo:

I do not, however, believe in state sponsored murder something that most definitely is not on the side of common decency.

But robbing a 3 year old child of the rest of his life is decent??

The decent thing to do is rid the world of this evil once and for all. Arthur you are backing the wrong side here. People like this do not deserve to live and how can you even think he does deserve to live. What purpose can his life possibly serve now except for maybe putting him into some experimental project in which case I would let him live. Only as long as we knew he would suffer.

“Apparently” normal.
Well Arthur, I would find it very odd for anybody that would forgive such an individual. In this case, forgiveness is not normal.

You see PeeDee Arthur way well be a devout christian and forgiveness is part of the whole deal. But are you saying being a serious christian in its fullest meaning is not normal?

To be honest I dont think the guy deserves to breath a minute longer on this planet than he needs to but its not for me to decide what happens to him it his society that should choose.

I think he might not live long when he reaches jail anyhow.

I was thinking of something along the big commercial types and a boeing fits well with that theory.

Do airlines put their own logos on seat belts like this?

If so I was thinking a Cathay Pacific aircraft.

Possible??

My advice is pay the fine. After all you were parked illegally FACT. I know its a pain but its only £25 now but a bigger pain later at £50. But if you think you have a good case and chance of winning go ahead.

In Edinburgh I was parked I thought ok but in fact it was a no parking zone. I thought we could park because we had my partners disabled badge up and that we could park on the double yellow lines. Turns out the sign half way down the street tells you no parking and the faded yellow stripes on the kerb also tell you the same. As they were badly placed I just didnt see them or missed them. However the moral of the story is this. In Edinburgh at least they all have digital cameras and pretty good quality too and the also have a website that you can appeal against your fine. If you do so within 10 days the fine is suspended at say £25 until the investigation is complete if you the are found still guilty of said charge you then get the chance to pay the £25 for the remaining days you had left when you first appealed. Only after all the days and suspended days are over the you would have to pay the £50.

In my case they had photos of the car from all 4 angles. Photo of the reg number. Photo of the tax disc. Photo of how far away I was from the kerb. photo of the stripes on the kerb. Good thing it was a good quality camera or they would never have seen them. And a photo of the sign with my car in the distance. I am suprised they didnt photograph the bird crap on the roof too.

Anyhow know how you feel and good luck with it. I appealed and got turned down but was able to pay the lower rate. £30 I think in Edinburgh. £60 afterwards. Oh and this was on a Sunday morning too.