post by dranio

“RAM materiels are not se easy to use, and their influence for stealth characteristic is not so string (if that would be possible, RAM application on F-15 or Su-27 should be enough “

Change the aluminium titanium skin of an f15 by ram its an very heavy duty, well i think that an modified f15 can do the same of an f22, but the f15 design was not made for supercruise.

The shape of the f22 dont reflex the radio waves to upwards -to the high sky-, basicaly is a very conentional design that atenutes the radar reflex, the raptor stealth is not based in their geometry,also it has -or like- the same problem of the poor “lever” effect in their surfaces controls.

i find that most people here has preconceived ideas

Hi Dranio, Coanda,

I must see whats goin next with this topic………PURE POLEMIC..jajaja 🙂 🙂

Well about it, because and delta wing has other control-surfaces thats no mean that is basically and delta (f15 mig29-24-mirage etc)….,other shapes are v wing or reverse v wing, trapezoidal wing (f18-f5) etc….

deltas preform better at high altiitude and speed, v preform better at subsonic thats why su-27 wing use a mix of both.

The wing design is basic in ANY airplain (Hi tech against comun sense?? :confused: )

The F22 is only is stealth by their materials and electronics -the shape is very conventional, another history is the YF-23(trapezoidal wing)-, again put RAM in Yurofigther and problem solved…

I see that the raptor design is limited

Helllo google, aerospacetech!!!

I know the topic is a little polemic, about this i only have to sat that the F22 has not an pure stealth shape is only by their materials, so put RAM in an eurofigther and problem solved…..
Also i read and hear the same futuristic BVR figther scene, but by now the medium range missiles has not enought pressicion to make well their job, also the jamming at medium ranges makes them more vulnerable, so the dogfigthing is still important, maybe is the same wrong concept cof the F4 phantom????