It’s one J-20. The second one is a duplicate of the first one they put in front of a J-15 to demonstrate size. This is a picture of China’s CFTE (Chinese Flight Test Establishment) at Yanliang, where they do most of their aerodynamic testing for designs.
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In this picture I believe the j20 length is more or less the same lenght as the Flanker
Sustained G is the aerodynamic load, 4.6 at 15000 ft is low though, the F16 g load at that altitude is 5g, the mig29 is 6-7g
First time i see the radiation warning sign on the LEVCONs, so is confirmed? the -5 is testing the L band radar? it seems they are fixing the issue of poor alitude directionability fitting it into the LEVCONS.
Probably I’m wrong, but it seems the whole LEVCOM is made of a new material?
Dint notice the…mirror in the underside of the nose, it seems to be inside the space for the radome, so whta is it?
http://russianplanes.net/images/to123000/122681.jpg
Nevermind, it seems the 054 doesnt have it, still, I´m curious.
The so called VLO airplanes are detectable, the problem is the tracking disruption due the ECM curtain.
You guys should realize that every modern airplane has a X band radar for tracking and fire control pruposes, this feature has not been changed, there is no a huge investment for a low frequency band radar for these duties, despite this is very affordable with modern technology.
Stealth by itself has no value, the Stealth + ECM combo is the key for the “stealth tactics”
These airplanes are not designed to work alone, but in a network, so at the end, all depends on many other factors, how good is the ECM equipment?, how good are the communication equipment?
But I must say that it seems the PAKFA is designed to be more independent from the network, than other designes, like the F35 or the F22.
The Indian agent strikes again…seriously, I remember the huge MMRCA mess…what is its status? Rafale supposely selected…nothing signed, OK…
from US tradition in the
With all the due respect, this is a childish commentary, the 22s radar is more powerful than the 15 ones, the F14 radar ismore powerful than the F4 one, thats all, if you can output more, you do it, the 22 side cheek radars were cancelled, and regarding fire control this plane was meant to have a much better awareness than the 35 in the aerial combat, and that is why the 22s radar ismore powerful.
Probably the F35 has more awareness to detect an incoming threat at short range, due its optical sensors, but it seems the T50 is going in the same path.
But to find and destroy a target, the T50 is definitivelly, by concept, way, way ahead the F35.
Five AESAs, not counting anything they put in the tail.
In the Su-35, too, the Russians have not accepted the field-of-regard limitations of a fixed ESA. That was acceptable for the MiG-31, with a different mission.
These kind of programs are getting more and more expensive, the Pakfa will be a very capable weapon, but is still a very expensive program, with more and more electronics stuffing in it , they will need a new engine, and is very likely this plane will be the most sotisficated regarding sensor fusion, and combat awareness, a very wide field for its AESAs, the LF band sensors, the IR and optic sistems, I think is now ahead of the F35 program.
But is worth to use it as a dogfighter? IMO russians will need a new fighter, even simpler than the F35, something like the Rafale or the Typhoon, with some LO tweaks and a practical LO undercarriage.
Everything depends on their requirements, probably they dont want a very packed arrange for launching pruposes.
We should understand that for air superiority the stealth features are less important than for strike pruposes, so the bomb bay for a multirole aircraft must be designed prioritizing the Air to ground ordenance over the air to air ones.
Altought I’m pretty sure the J20 is more an air superiority desing than a multirole one, like the Pakfa…but i find strange the fact that it doesnt have a supercruiser intake.
16’600kg or more
I’m almost sure the Pakfa will be lighter than that,, but we must remember the F22 is covered with tape and plastiline (in the produccion line you can see the airframe is full of rivets), and we dont know if the T50 will be aswell.
it is lighter but can flight to greater distances. But the most important about T-50 is its equipment,
Hmm, actually the most important new should be that is lighter, how lighter? I dont know.
Something official about the “radome” on the tail?
The aircraft was too heavy, 14,5 tm empty, actually was a miracle that russians kept the mig23 weight at 10tm, for such fighter with that performance, mig 23s design and weight control was a quite good job.
Had the J20 get larger intakes, i had said it was meat for very high speed operations, but now i can see is a stealthier and larger Typhoon, and thats OK.
Instead the PAKFA looks more like a multirole aircraft, with very high performance, like a stealthier Rafale…but with much more bigger engines.
The whole J20’s configuration can make difficult for it to carry very heavy loads, probably many missiles, but not very heavy, like ASMs
While the PAKFA bomb bays are pretty well distributed, and IMO are meant for heavy ASM weapons.
So there you go.