you can’t even get China’s strike platform and the weapon systems or why it choose that correct, what can I say?

so show me the unique strike platform and weopon system.

exactly my point, the Russians will say whatever to export their stuff.

nonsense. no country buys military equipment just based on public statments. every thing is evalutated for years by Military Professional in there field and offcourse Price and Tech and continutiy of Political agreement is cornerstone of weoopon dealings between two countries. it is alot more complex than giving statements to Kanwa.

the EAF’s F-16’s are almost brand-new,so there is no reason to replace tham in the near future..
about the phantoms, i know that the Egyptians had a hard time of maintaining them.and because of that,several groups of Egyptian technicians have been send to the US in order to learn how to maintaine thire F-4’s from professional US technicians…

but,i agree that time of the Egyptian f-4’s is about to end,and a replacment is needed..

the Egyptian pilots are one of the best in all of the Middle East,and thay are trained by the US. so i would not say that thire training is “pathetically poor “..
i know that the EAF had gained a bad reputation during the conflicts against Israel.
but time as change,and the EAF is only secend to the IDFAF in terms of training qualities.

BTW
does anyone have a good photos of EAF f-4’s?

thanks

so US training makes automatically equal or second best to Israel in middleast? there are alot of other factors involved which are far more important. i will put Iranian and Algerian above Egypt interms of airforce capability.

I took this picture from another form. If its real it does show Two centerline paylon side by side unlike Flanker. there is certainly more lift ability than Su-30.and how it can carry two moskits or that 3 large fuel tanks.

Makes you wonder why they don’t just make the dart itself available as an air-launched antiship missile.

There newer version of Kh-31/Kh-35/Kh-59 all the time coming and they are cheaper and Fulcrum/Flanker can use 4 to 6. so good for saturation attack under 300km. and most of third world countries can afford this.
Now India has Brahmos. which i believe will go 500 to 1000 km in airlaunched version. but u need this kind of weopon if u are fighting USN. Even against PLAN it is overkill.
Chinese Flankers are obsolete to fully exploit Club range and J-10 cannot carry it.
so there is little chance of Air launched antiship Club.

Have never heard before that Izd 117S (Al-41F1) has 1.500 MTBO periods, early in the program it was slated as 2.000 hours, later it was assumed as 1.000 hours, that was what caused my doubts.

Also the prices of the overhaul works are pretty weird, they’re lower than the numbers I manage from the Ukraine (not the expensive place on earth to get overhauls for your russkie engines, in fact one of the cheapest) and I have my doubts that such numbers are on-line even when the engine is in full-tests!

So I would like to see the source. Thanks.

how ukraine suppose to overhaul 117S when it has no access to it let alone setting price for overhaul. Engine is essentially complete on other test beds.
and price of almost everything has went up. just look at Western aircraft. so u cannot use some old prices for old engines.

http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=38089&cid=25
” Assembly of first pre-production model Су-35 in the new version now comes to the end with the Komsomol-on-cupid aviation production association (КнААПО) which are included into company ” Dry “. In a stage of construction in a various degree of readiness there are some more planes of this type “, – the representative of company ” Dry ” has explained.

Hey Jonesy,

I think you are overrating Klub a little bit here. Compared to Harpoon and Exocet, it’s still a much larger target. We don’t know how low this thing can fly, I doubt it can achieve the 3-5 m flying altitude in the terminal stage. On top of that, it’s guidance is probably much inferior. I remember reading a kanwa article a while back that it only hit 15 out of 20 targets. Not exactly a great hit ratio.

who actually fired 20 targets and who reveal the data and for what?
There was an exhibition in Indonesia just 2 to 3 months ago. Where there advertizement from Brahmos Co (probably from Indian side) about its Superority over other missiles (and that includes Club) and it was officially protested from Russia that how can they know all the capabilities of missile and for specific customers.
u can rest assure it may be down graded for China just like R-77.
I dont think India buy the same R-77 and other missile tech. just like MKI. same will be true for inside Brahmos. so it is a customer specific variants.

It is from 2003 and showing already induction of Supersonic hit and range limitations of Brahmos due to control regimes.

Dec 27, 2003,The Economic Times)
A. Shivathanu Pillai, chief controller (R&D), DRDO and BrahMos Aerospace CEO-cum-MD, told The Times of India on Thursday that with the successful development and trials of the anti-ship version, BrahMos is now ready for production. “We’ve completed six successful tests from mobile autonomous launcher and warship to sea targets. The results of land-to-ship missions are remarkable. BrahMos warhead can hit the target nine times more powerful than a subsonic-class cruise missile,” Pillai said.

Analysts said the freedom to take decisions, better management skills and deployment of high-end technology came as a boon to this prestigious joint venture launched on February 12, 1998.

BrahMos will certainly be a force multiplier to the navies of India and Russia and the results confirm it as a superior lethal weapon available in the world today. With a range restricted to 290 km due to control regimes, BrahMos has the most-advanced guidance system of Indi an origin, that would give the Navy an edge over others.

Sources said no cruise missile in the world can match the capabilities of BrahMos. The Russian-made Moskit supersonic cruise missile (with a range of 120 km) is bulky and China has purchased the same and inducted it into two warships. Another Russian product, Club missile, is a subsonic weapon with a supersonic hit and is inducted by the Navy. Even the much-talked American Tomahawk missiles are subsonic which fly at one-third the speed of BrahMos

Wrong. It has already been marketed at Le Bourget. Export customers might not get production machines until 2010 at this point, but they can buy them right now.

Yes it has been shown for introduction but it is not clear for export. and there is very recent statement about it. Clear for export usually means that foreign pilot/experts can start indepth evaluation. so this thing isnt ready

That was an example used for the sake of discussion. Reading comprehension deals not only with grammar but with context as well.

u havent provided the clear context. u said design objective and than cost from outset but the unknown is cost. u cannot put figure on unknown Research and there is another thing of quantifying R&D values into dollars.

than there is Radar size decreasing with time with more powerful elemental base. so they have to take into account these unknowns which are impossible to implement before due processing limitations.

http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=37940&cid=25
Enterprise “Svetlana” fills 70 % of the needs of Russian market for the semiconductors

ST. PETERSBURG, on 21 March. (ITAR- TASS). Enterprise “Svetlana” fills 70 % of the needs of Russian market for the semiconductors, reported the director general of company Vladimir Popov before the session VPK.

He also reported that untill 2011 enterprise will make 5-6 thousand semiconductor plates.

Before the Mil.-industrial session the first vice- premier Sergey Ivanov visited the hall of assembling technical equipment for the cultivation of new semiconductor materials. From them in the enterprises “Svetlana” are produced the promising models of the transistors, which, in turn, are used for creating the instruments of optical electronics (light-emitting diodes, lasers) and SHF- instruments.

The models of new nitride-gallium (Ga-Ni) semiconductors were showed to Ivanov. it’s reported that these semiconductors can survive temperature up to 300 C, they have higher, than usual, power and increased EFFICIENCY. Through these models Russia is located on the level of France and Japan and only little it lags behind THE USA, informed Ivanov the director general of “Svetlanas”. In this case, specified Popov, new transistors of this semiconductor withstood the testing by the temperature of 125 Cof more than 1000 h. the first vice- premier it noted that these are very good indices both for the civil and for the military instruments. “for rocket engineering – this it is sufficient. For a missile 30 min is sufficiently guaranteed “, said Ivanov.

The developments of enterprise “Svetlana” will make it possible to significantly decrease the sizes and the mass of the communication systems radars, utilized in the military sphere. With the successful experiences in the next only four years the radars size will be decreased three times