it is this engine they are referring to. It is intermediate engine towards 5th generation.

http://www.royfc.com/acft_news_old_jun2.html#14jun
Sukhoy to Begin Exporting Su-35 Fighters with New 117S Engine in 2009

In 2009, the Sukhoy Aviation Holding Company will begin export fighters with the new 117S engine, an official representative of the firm reported today.

“The Sukhoy company not only determined the choice of a power plant for the new Su-35 airplane which is intended for export, but also is a co-investor in the program, having adopted a decision about financing 40 percent of the total cost of the engine’s experimental design work,” the Sukhoy representative said. An agreement for further financing of experiment design work on the creation of the 117S engine was signed in Moscow at a meeting of the managers of the Sukhoy firm Mikhail Pogosyan, NPO Saturn Yuriy Lastochkin and the Ufa Machine Building Production Association Aleksandr Artyukhov. The partnering firms intend to end all experimental design work by 2008.

During experimental design work on the 117S engine, technologies are being perfected which will be used in the creation of the fifth generation engine in the interests of the Russian Federation defense ministry, the noted at the Sukhoy company. The 117S engine is a highly upgraded AL-31F and has a thrust of 14.5 tonnes, which exceeds the figure of the basic engine by 2 tonnes, ITAR-TASS is reporting on this.

If that is all you have to say to that I am lucky. Or maybe it is all you know about the issue. No Typhoon will fly supercruise with full internal fuel. After all it is an assumption, if you stick to the numbers like an old chewing gum you missed the point completly.
Always sobering to have so many “experts” here and nobody really able to say something qualified beyond the badly quoted AFM-article of last month.

so EF needs one ton fuel to break Mach 1. i cant imagine it has 11 ton empty weight.

and series 2 has 90 degree offborsight. there are alteast 250 aircraft of IAF equiped with R-73. alteast it shows the confidence.
However the R-73 has not inertial guidance niether 200 degree angular tracking ability of in few words +100 or -100 deg like the Python V operationally niether 180 degree or +90 or -90 deg like the ASRAAM

how do u know about R-73 vs any other wvr performance. the day russia supply similar R-73 to bangladesh or china. India will just retire all of r-73s thats i posted news about customized zhuk radar. this things are not in brochures just like s-300 offer to india. India simply does accept anything second rate.

http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/1-2006/arms_trade/item2/
Finally, we note that India remains as before the sole driver of scientific-technical development of Russia’s military-industrial complex, and one of two countries, along with France, which is currently or planning to conduct joint high-tech projects on the basis of risk sharing with Russian firms.

Модификация К-73Э
Макс. дальность стрельбы в ППС, км 30
Мин.дальность стрельбы в ЗПС, км 0,3

from R-73 data

This shows you the Max lauching range for the R-73 is 30km and the minimun range is 300 meters, the aircraft computer should calculate under those parameters for a non static target the R-73 range therefore
the true range of the R-73 basicly will be 30km>target>0.3km

this is from same webpage that u give data. since 1999 it has 40KM range and 120 degree offboresight for series 3.

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http://www.airwar.ru/weapon/avv/r73.html
In Mosaeroshou-9″was represented the rocket K -74m3 with maximum range 40 km, by equipped new GSN with the angle of circulation, increased to 120°. It is declared, that the rocket underwent tests since 1994 and it was ready to series production. In y999g. to “mosaeroshou” was demonstrated the rocket R -73L (in the export version R -73l3) with the laser fuse. To the present period the rocket R -73 is the most effective short-range weapon, which does not practically have foreign analogs. In contrast to other rockets, developed for MiG-29 and Su-27, it can be used, also, from the aircraft of the previous generation without the essential modification of their onboard electronics. Practically this was realized on last versions MiG-23, additionally armed R -73 with the arrangement on PU -72, and also on the experimental MiG-93 – modernized version MiG-21 with RLS “spear”.

and series 2 has 90 degree offborsight. there are alteast 250 aircraft of IAF equiped with R-73. alteast it shows the confidence.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Aircraft/Missiles/index.html
An improved version, designated R-73RDM2, has an up-rated rocket motor giving twice the range and seeker sensitivity of the earlier model under typical combat conditions. It can also be fired rearward to protect the rear hemisphere of the launching aircraft. It has a 90º off-boresight capability, re-programmable digital control electronics, a better resistance to IR counter-measures and the capability to engage low-flying targets. The integrated counter-countermeasures (ICCM) combines four different techniques and has an algorithm that will allow the missile to shift its aim from the engine of a targeted aircraft to the middle of the airframe in the final milliseconds of an intercept. The R-73RDM2 has a range of 40 km and a maximum speed of Mach 4.

The Meteor is getting ready fro the battle check this news

15 May 2006 Meteor fired for the first time

Robert Hewson Editor, Jane’s Air-Launched Weapons
London

Europe’s Meteor Beyond Visual Range Air-to-Air Missile (BVRAAM) programme has taken a major step forward with the launch of the first test missile on 9 May, Jane’s has learned.

The first Meteor was fired from a Saab JAS 39 Gripen multirole fighter aircraft over the RFN Test Range at Vidsel, northern Sweden.

The launch in May was the first time that the Meteor’s propulsion system had been fully tested under real-world conditions.

The firing was intended to verify the missile’s ability to transition from rocket-boosted to ramjet-powered flight. The Meteor is powered by a solid-fuel throttleable ducted ramjet motor,developed by Germany’s Bayern-Chemie. The missile is designed to sustain a speed of M4.0 over its 100+ km engagement range.

One test lauch does not mean that it is operational. u cannot compare it some thing which is already operational.

The R-73 max launch range means that is the max distance it can fly but since targets are moving that distance will depend upon the speed, direction and distance of the target.

maximum launch range means that it can be launched at 30km away target but target can move during the time so actual range is more.

The ASRAAM can be cued by HMS and the aircraft has several other systems to locate the target among them electro optical.

The Panavia Tornado pilot has superior launch options than the Su-30 in what respects angular engament tracking and lock on.

they can put new active seeker of R-77 with same performance as long range missile and agilit of short range missile.

http://www.ainonline.com/Publications/paris/2005/d1agatp72b.htm

AGAT can scale seekers to size of missile’s task

by Reuben Johnson

Russia’s AGAT Research Institute is unveiling a new seeker that could become an industry standard in the air-to-air and surface-to-air missile industry. Designated the 9B-1103M-150, the model is a more advanced and compact version of the active RH seeker fitted to the Vympel RVV-AE medium-range air-to-air missile–the Russian equivalent of the Raytheon AIM-120 advanced medium-range air-to-air missile (AMRAAM).

Since air-to-air missiles became the primary fighter aircraft weapon, manufacturers have produced them in size categories with dimensions and endurance based on their firing and range/engagement envelopes. As such, components made for one size or type of missile usually could not work on another. Several technological developments have now changed that, allowing AGAT to develop the 9B-1103M-150 model of its long-standing active radar homing seeker, on display here for the first time ever here at Le Bourget.

“In the air-to-air missile world of today we have infrared [IR] homing missiles which are operating at beyond visual range [BVR], something not possible several years ago and was strictly the territory of a radar homing [RH] missile,” explained AGAT general designers Dr. Josef Akopyan. “The reason is that at longer ranges an IR seeker can take out a target and sometimes be less susceptible to jamming than a RH seeker is. In a similar vein, now find that there are scenarios when it makes sense to employ an active RH missile at shorter ranges, but on a smaller missile body, so that we retain the maneuverability of the smaller, short-range IR missile–but with the accuracy of an active RH medium-range missile. The two classes of missiles–IR and RH–have now essentially crossed over into each other’s engagement envelopes.”

Designers had previously identified a need to place an active homing seeker on their R-73 (AA-11) missile airframe. But the missing piece of the design for this shorter-range RH missile was a scaled-down version of the same AGAT active RH seeker fitted to the Vympel RVV-AE (AA-12). Akopyan’s design team has taken the standard 200-mm-diameter seeker of the RVV-AE and developed a 150-mm seeker that will fit the R-73 airframe.

“Even though we reduced the overall dimensions of the seeker, retains all of the operational performance of the larger version used in the RVV-AE. It employs an all-digital signal processing system, which has allowed us to improve its range performance, immunity to jamming, and its overall tactical combat performance,” Akopyan told Aviation International News.

AGAT designers also remark about how much today’s open architecture technology has made a difference in their ability to scale up or scale down the size of a seeker. “Our seekers now are like a set of matryoshki,” said one AGAT representative, referring to the famous Russian dolls.e have a 350 millimeter [13.8-inch] seeker in addition to the 200- millimeter and the new 150-millimeter model. They are all the same basic design, but as we move up in diameter we add larger antennas, which provide for more range.”

The thing that is galling is people want the US to butt out but when the sh!t hits the fan who’s the first country the come crying to?

may be this countries cry out to US because US is historically present there.

There are days I wish we’d take them up on it and let them see would it would be like with ZERO deployed forces for about ten years. Tsunami comes in? Let the Russians or the Chinese get that call.

I doubt China/Russia will oblige by sending there troops just for humanitarian purpose very far away. they are in the business of making money not in earning goodwill which dont need. at most they can do is stability in border countries so terrorist cannot infiltrate.

The Tornado speaks by it self, the aircraft has serve well the english, German and Italian air forces, the Tornado has a better missile than the R-73, the ASRAAM is a missile nearer to the Python V than the R-73, the R-73 is not in the same class, what the Su-30 will try to avoid is an ASRAAM from hitting it not the Panavia Tornado, the Tornado can fire the ASRAAM without getting behind the Su-30 that is the reality, both at BVR will use AMRAAM type missiles

ur picture does not make sense. it shows TVC equiped Flanker so close behind Tornado? why would be Flanker in such situation to begin with?.( it has more fuel, acceleration, bigger radar). it can chose when to fire and from which position to hit an enemy. 60 degree or 90 degree boresight only makes a difference when u are too in wvr combat even than Flanker equiped with TVC have big advantage with its rapidly turning nose pointing where whole aircraft energy is transferred to missile in direction of target. i read this in there interview and probably that is the reason that IAF and RMAF still using R-73.