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  • in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2459496
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    Here’s the important take aways that I read in that article.

    “We have a 350 millimeter [13.8-inch] seeker in addition to the 200- millimeter and the new 150-millimeter model. They are all the same basic design, but as we move up in diameter we add larger antennas, which provide for more range.”

    There’s no mention of the missile that the 350mm seeker is going into. I guarantee you it won’t be an R-77 at 13.8 inches in diameter.

    Another important tidbit-

    “Since the performance of any active-radar sensor is related to the aperture size (area) of the antenna, the reduction in antenna diameter that results from the smaller antenna of the 9M-1103M-150 inevitably means that the maximum lock-on range of the new seeker is less than that of the larger 9M-1103M. Against a target of 5 m2 radar cross-section, the new seeker has a maximum lock-on range of 13 km, while the larger 200 mm-diameter seeker can manage lock-on at up to 20 km range against a similar target.”

    What do you suppose the lock on range against a target in the <.001 or .0001 RCS would be? <1km? .5km? .1km?

    And why do u suppose that these are for Ruaf?

    The next question you need to ask- how far away will the F-35/22 pilot be able to detect the incoming missile(especially after its seeker goes active)?

    One last question- can you point us to the source that says the R-77 is getting a 300-400% range increase? It certainly wasn’t in that article.

    Thise article is from 2005/06. R-77 is getting increase in range of 4 times. Similar is 4 times increase of R-37 class missile. These seekers are for countries for down graded radars in there fighters so missile has to do things by itself upto 70km. Export missiles cannot interept hypersonic and stealth targets but Ruaf missile does. Similar is the difference between Iskander-M and Iskander-E.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2459503
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    The claims I’ve seen are that targets with an RCS of .1-.01 can be detected at 90km. Considering that the F-35 has a lower RCS than that means that figure will be lower, and well within the NEZ of its missiles, by the time the Mig-31 sees it. Oh, and I have no problems challenging claims if there is no evidence to support them.

    This things are for export thats why they showed it at Paris show. For Ruaf missiles they wont be discussing.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2459753
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    How can a 280mm radar seeker be refering to r-77 when the diameter of the body doesn’t go over 200mm? A typo then, perhaps?

    It may be for new missile. larger than R-77 but smaller than R-37. They are increasing the range of new R-77 three to four times. so larger seeker with bigger FOV is needed.

    http://www.missiles.ru/foto_9B1103M-150.htm
    AGAT can scale seekers to size of missile’s task

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2459767
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    … of course ! That’s for granted. 😮

    Just one question and then I will end my part on that discussion as it seems useless !

    Do You believe everything a Russian commander-in-chief or someone from Sukhoi tells You without questioning !!
    Just take a look, what they’ve promised before, what became true … and what they are telling You now.

    You are obsessed by the dream of a Russian superiority … keep on dreaming. 😡
    Deino

    I havent seen any borken promises. except for first flight of 5th generation plane which is understandable considering they were trying to built superior product to competitors at fraction of cost.
    U can see Russian President was predicting economic depression while China/Singapore was busy investing in worthless paper. I will not second judge Sukhoi or Ruaf as they are appointed from same system.
    http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/439353

    in reply to: Possible futire Air wars #2459788
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    In the most pessimistic future of 2030 I see a world where countries and allies are competing to explore natural resources all over the world. Old treaties are ignored and broken. Nations are racing to set up oil-platforms, fishing-ports and military bases where there are non today, such as north/south pole, off-shore oil-platforms wayy out of the economical zones etc. This will cause tensions and make you more hostile no matter how economical or technological advanced you are. There is always someone who is weaker and you can take advantage of.

    USA are fed up with Europe and is thinking, “USA comes 1st, screw the rest”. NATO is disbanded and USA still have “control” over the most important country in the world, Saudi Arabia, but are also trying to consolidate its position in other parts of the world which have oil. But are constantly running into competition with the Chinese, mainly in Africa and Asia.
    Europe is a Union with one common agenda, policy etc. Not aggressive in the hunt for oil but is set on not letting large parts of North/South pole will slip from their hands.
    Russia is basically like it is today…
    China is stronger, more advanced and more aggressive. In every part of the world.

    Add to this a disbanded UN. Much of the world is troubled with pollution, starvation and lack of water which results in massive floods of refugees which in its turn causes more tension between countries. Perhaps even a global warming which has led to millions of people in coastal regions having to leave their homes.
    With all this you have a nice cocktail of tensions that could cause conflicts in the future. Conflicts where even old allies can turn on each other.
    I have´nt exactly thought of smaller regional powers in latin/south-america and India and such. I don´t think they can change anything in the global point of view.

    As I said. This is the most pessimistic view of the future. It can all be roses, we hold each others hands and live in harmony as well.

    In 2030 Saudi arabia will not be important but a big problem. there would be more than 100 million people living there with bloated government and no industrialization, short of food and water resources. Global per capita income will be way higher and for that increase in water/food/energy will be required.
    US and EU are too much interdependent to leave each other alone. But i see EU/Russia increase not only in direct trade but Russia as overland route for EU export and import to Asia/Middleast. so conflict will be minimal except for some bordering states.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2459795
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    While, Russia & India may have a requirement for the PAK-FA to physically out perform the F-22/F-35. That is hardly a guaratee that it will be able to do so. Further, even if it could that would mean little without Avionics and Weapons Superiority too! As BVR engagment will be the rule not the exception……

    There has been vast improvement in BVR capability of Russian missiles. Infact R-73 uses active seekers. 280mm seeker refer to newer version of R-77. R-37M will be more in 350mm. These are now sensitive enough to lock on stealth targets and missiles. offcourse full data will not be released.

    http://www.airfleet.ru/index.php?staid=1001239
    At present Agat Research Institute (MNII

    Agat) designs the new active long-range SHH

    Slanets. It will use a high-productivity computer

    with a powerful signal processor. Its software

    will be able to quickly change logic in case of

    interference. The new head’s range is planned to

    be 2-2.5 times longer than the one of the existing

    SHHs. It will detect and automatically track air

    targets and send signals to the missile’s control

    system including those which destroy interference

    effect. A missile with this SHH will be able to hit

    various kinds of targets – aircraft, helicopters

    (including dwelling), cruise missiles, tactical

    ballistic missiles, antiradar missiles, antiship

    missiles, etc. The active SHH’s weight is 35kg; its antenna

    reflector’s diameter is 280mm. The SHH detects

    a fighter-type target at a range of up to 70km.

    It has got an increased-power transmitter, new

    radar signals and new methods of signal processing. Thus its range of detection and level of protection against interference have substantially
    grown.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2459918
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    The MIG-31 can’t outrun a Mach 4+ missile, and won’t know it needs to run, if it can’t see the F-35.

    thats ur assumption. Russia Radar scientist have clearly claimed they can see Stealth. and u cannot certainly challenge instituional claim of Sukhoi, MIG and Ruaf. It is backed up by centuries of scientific discoveries. not some imported knowledge.

    Translation. Undistinguished planes, hypersonic intercepts. range exceeding 200km. (offcourse real range is several times of that)

    THE ANSWER TO NEW THREATS

    In due time occurrence МиГ-31 has destroyed plans of those who planned the massed aviation impacts on our country with attraction of thousand cruise missiles and hundreds strategic bombers. However technical process did not stand on a place, and in process of development abroad means of an air attack about which it has been told above, modernization of a fighter became actual.

    As have shown recent tests advanced МиГ-31, it(he), as well as the base plane a quarter centuries ago, successfully struggles with the advanced means of an air attack.

    “Brain” of such plane became the modernized control system of arms (СУВ), including advanced БРЛС, a new onboard computer, mathematical and the software with elements of an artificial intellect. Due to these innovations range of detection of the air purposes has increased almost in 2 times, are raised(increased) точностные characteristics СУВ.

    The updated control system of arms allows to apply rockets of the superbig range, similar which is not present in the world. Their range of start-up exceeds 200 km. Opportunities of an interceptor on defeat of undistinguished planes and cruise missiles, and also the flying devices having hypersound speed of flight have increased.

    Advanced МиГ-31 can bear(carry) more than aviation means of defeat, than the base plane.

    In a cabin new МиГ-31 modern means of display of the tactical information, including color multipurpose indicators of the big size are established(installed). The crew has had an opportunity to be guided on modern system of satellite navigation. Efficiency at the decision of problems(tasks) of various classes has increased 1,5-4 times.

    Fighting opportunities advanced МиГ-31 allow to struggle successfully with perspective means of an air attack, including with undistinguished cruise missiles and perspective hypersound flying devices. The new interceptor will be the worthy opponent to fighters of the fifth generation. Them малозаметность it will be compensated by greater range of detection of the purposes an onboard radar, and also unique opportunities of the updated rocket arms of the Russian fighter.

    There are no doubts, that advanced МиГ-31 will play exclusively important role in the conflict of any scale and to application of any weapon
    Vladimir МИХАЙЛОВ
    The commander-in-chief Military-air forces, the general

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2460097
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    Oh wait a minute and then isn’t a 4++ class fighter not a 5- class fighter !?? And is a 4++ automaticly better than a 4+ … ?
    Come on … These classifications are all useless :p untill You don’t know what available too (AWACS, EW, network … ) and not to forget the pilot and tactics … and the F-35 has surely has the “ability to fight MIG-31/F-22” (that’s a very good joke, not even Lockheed Martin would tell !) :dev2:

    Sukhoi clearly differentiate between 4, 4+, 4++ and 5th generation. These are not meaningless numbers. MIG-31/F-22 surely has legs to disengage from F-35. It is the speed and altitude that matters in Air to air fight along with big radar not no one can jam. AWACS does not mattr to MIG-31 and it doesnot matter in individual aircraft qualities.

    I don’t say it is less an achivement in comparison to other aircarft from Russia and abroad, but does this directly mean they aren’t allowed to be delayed ?
    And Yes I don’t know anything of the T-50 … but I’m surely YOU know everything about the PAK-FA … and as long it isn’t built, test-flown, certified and read for combat everything else is a fan-boy’s wet-dream.

    Sukhoi certainly knows about T-50. Every thing is based on there statements.

    … and reagarding the Su-34 – following Your own statement: YES, it’s the only fighter-bomber in the world that has been “4 times upgraded completely take into light the changing requirements” (WHY ?? .. only because of changing requirements but also because of reliablity and performance issues ?!!), … and wait a minute: it’s only flying in limited numbers since years – and most likely in years to come. 😉

    That the USA or Europe don’t have a counterpart in the same class doesn’t mean anything … at least the US has some bombers and fighter-bombers that areoperational since years in the role Your Su-34 still has to proove.

    Su-34 is claimed that is completely immune from air defences. Not no other aircraft can claim.

    Typical advertisments by the manufacture … nothing proven so far !!
    Or am I wrong ???
    If You would thrust all JSF-marketing brochures in the same manner one could think the only thing missing is a warp-drive !:D

    Deino

    By that standards not a single aircraft is combat proven as most wars are conducted against vastly inferior adversaries.

    in reply to: Rebuilding the Marine National #2067507
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    The Black Sea has opposition seapower pocketed up in an oversized bloody pond!. If there EVER was a theatre those Backfires and MR Fencers would’ve had a field day that was it!. Why not use this magnificent airpower when it can actually be employed to some good!!!. The Neustrashimy….was….in….the….Baltic thats a 4500-5000nm, 10 day, transit at a steady 20knts. For a navy thats not really been deploying a lot for a while thats ambitious when there are much nearer assets that could be used!. It does not make a lot of sense even tasking that vessel in the first place.

    U have to underdstand this point. Caucaus is the most voltile region but the equipment for Air/Army/Naval except for some Iskander units are the most outdated. Best weopons always goes to Fareast/North. and Russia currently does not want to esclate conflict in Blacksea as it is economic zone but future will be very different. All countries will either have to obey Russia or slip into depression. I doubt Norway can expand its economic zone.

    http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12381767
    That highlights worries elsewhere, particularly in Norway, where fighter jets scramble on average once a week to intercept Russian warplanes buzzing close to their country. The Kremlin’s aircraft and ships do not quite break international law. But they commit what a senior official terms “breaches of etiquette”. These have included naval manoeuvres in the midst of Norway’s oil and gas platforms in the North Sea, involving aggressive air sorties that grounded all offshore helicopter flights; that was inconvenient, expensive and dangerous. Also troubling was a mock bombing run against Norway’s northern command centre at Bodo, and at least three other, so far unpublicised, incidents.
    Russian planes and ships may be old, but training and upkeep have improved and some of the weapons they carry are increasingly modern, such as a new long-range cruise missile. Some think Russian submarines in the north have been experimenting with the Shkval, a super-fast torpedo that gives Western navies the jitters. “Russia is establishing a new reality in a strategically empty space,” says Jon Bingen, a defence analyst in Oslo.
    Norway is the only old European NATO member bordering Russia. Its military planners are disappointed by their allies’ tepid response to Russian provocation—for instance when a rogue Russian trawler briefly kidnapped Norwegian fishing inspectors in 2005. At stake are not just fish, hydrocarbons and minerals: melting ice means that the Arctic, once largely a dead end, may become a strategic route to East Asia.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2460125
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    Well, all I know is they better get that PAK-FA flying soon, otherwise they wont be able to stop the oil barrels dropping to $50 or less :p

    They have enough money to grow without single drop of Oil export and preserve it for future price rise. Russian non-Oil exports cover all its imports. and than there is financial reserves for 3 year worth of imports. Even China/Japan/Saudi combined cannot do that.

    http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews+articleid_2695543.html
    Russian Economy Has Very Strong Foundation – Pwc
    Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:55 PM

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2460159
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    Ohhh … just give me a break: How many of them are currently flying ??? If I remember correct, then there are currently two prototypes, that accumulated how many hours of flying !! 😀
    None of these Sukhoi-advertisment-performances have so far been archieved or demonstrated, at least surely not all … (the same with Lockeed Martin with its F-35 which is surely a generation ahead, which is and also delayed !!:diablo:)

    F-35 is at most quarter a generation ahead. as Su-35 is 4++ aircraft (There wont be 4+++ as Su-27SM is 4+).with ability to fight MIG-31/F-22. and superior to all existence 4+ generation aircraft.
    flight hrs accumulation on Sukhoi is not the same thing as any other manufacturer. Clear reference to 5th generations systems in Su-35.

    http://www.knaapo.ru/rus/news/archive/index.wbp?article-id=70BD695F-95B8-4DCA-9BEB-97ACD77DF524
    Su-35 – deeply modernized super-maneuverability multifunctional fighter of the generation “4++”. In it the technologies of the fifth generation, which ensure superiority over the fighters of analogous class, are used. The distinctive special features of aircraft are the new complex of avionics on the basis of the digital information-control system, which integrates the systems of onboard equipment, new radar (RLS) with the phased antenna array with the long range of the detection of aerial targets with the increased number of simultaneously accompanied and fired purposes, new engines with the increased thrust and the rotary thrust vector.

    Exactly my point … You can’t compare Russia / SU with all its archievents and say the same goes on with the PAK-FA and Su-34.

    Deino

    How do u know anything about PAK-FA/Su-34 that it is less of achievment? The only statement is there are no counterpart to them in the World.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2460201
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    Oh ha … that’s strage, especially as he was clearly not mentioning the Indian version ! Nothing on that it will “outperform the F-35/F-22 … esp. as the F-22 isn’t developed jointly by the Untied Kingdom and the Untied States. 🙁

    Joint developlment clearly refers to F-35. and F-22 has BAE systems. that is clearly British firm. BAE is wealthy because it has ties to Middleast.

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2006_June_13/ai_n26894434
    NASHUA, N.H. — BAE Systems has delivered the first production digital electronic warfare (EW) system to Lockheed Martin for use in the U.S. Air Force’s Raptor #4084. The airframe is well into production and slated for delivery to the Air Force in November 2006.

    Even stranger as just some posts above I was only saying that the Indian version – IMO – would be delayed ! And what was Your reply ???? I was told that this …

    IAF has never mentioned date of induction of 5th generation fighter. So on what basis is it delayed. MKI is not delayed when u compare to EF/Rafale. and all tecnology transfer implementation.

    I think You really don’t know what You write … all You can is bash on those who say current Russian programmes are not that top-level, are not that mature, current Russian programmes are delayed … Russia with all its super-duper-hyper weapons like the hundreds of km-ranging AAMs, the nearly fifth generation Su-35 … !

    Name me one country in the World that can built fighter with 11.5 tons internal load, 3D TVC hypermanevorability, 6000flight hours (no breaking up). extensive use of titanium (No carbon composites) and still weigh less than competition. and all with interanal money of firm untill this point.

    I think You are no seeing this difference. This is still the same as other countries have to deal with … just take a look at all other high-tech projects military or civil. Not a whole different game.

    Maybe Your beloved Russia will rise again … but after taking a look what came out during the last decade (even with a lot of mony spent during the last years) … its still a pale shade of what it was once before … and therefore I don’t expect a miracle during the next decade.

    Deino 😡

    When u cannot see the difference in monetary/technical challenges i cannot explain further. There is huge difference between 1500 airframe life MIG-29 of Soviet era and Su-34 of 2008. It is the precision strike and quality of systems that matters.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode V #2460282
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    o.k. … let me just check the math:

    October 2007 + 5 years = late 2012 development finished !
    October 2007 + 8 or 10 years = late 2015 or 2017 first flight !!

    … and what does “time on time” mean … ??? :confused:

    … either there’s something wrong with that statement, or I’m correct with my statement, that the PAK-FA will be delayed !!

    Deino :p

    He is clearly referring to IAF requirements that it should outperform physically F-35/F-22 like Speed/Range etc. And nothing wrong with that schedule. ur looking at 2017-2020 IAF induction schedule after MKI is done at 2014. Similar to export JSF. I dont take that MRCA seriously.
    India would only signup for modification of existing aircraft PAK-FA will be pretty mature by first flight of PAK-FA(MKI). PAK-FA is huge programe with all kind of version coming out during course of its development.

    in reply to: Rebuilding the Marine National #2067614
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    They are building a new naval base in one of their black sea ports, forget the name right now.

    The interesting thing about Hong Kong is, Hong Kong Island itself was not leased, it was only the mainland portion of Hong Kong. The Island was permanently ceded to the UK during one of the wars in the late 19th century.

    Nothing can replace Crimea. More ports are just going to give more options to Russia and in 5 years time Ukranian will be busy in elections while Russia ports and pipelines/transport routes will be completed so it can impose totally different kind of treaties.

    http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews+articleid_2695538.html
    Syrian Port Cannot Serve As Main Base for Russian Black Sea Fleet Ships – Official
    Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:55 PM

    (Source: Daily News Bulletin; Moscow – English)MOSCOW. Oct 9 (Interfax-AVN) – The Russian military command does not consider the Syrian port of Tartus as an alternative to Sevastopol as the Black Sea Fleet’s main base, a high-ranking official from the Russian General Staff told Interfax.
    “The establishment of another base will definitely expand the fleet’s operational capabilities, including as regards the presence in the Mediterranean. But there are no reasons to say that in the future the port of Tartus could become the Black Sea Fleet’s main base instead of Sevastopol,” the official said, in commenting on The Guardian newspaper’s recent report suggesting that Russian naval ships could be redeployed in Tartus in view of Ukraine’s threats to deprive the Black Sea Fleet of its base in Sevastopol

    http://www.kyivpost.com/world/29711
    Russian navy top brass want to keep Ukraine port
    15 September, 20:11 Print E-mail to a friend E-mail to an editorial
    A senior Russian naval officer said on Monday that Moscow wanted to keep its base in Ukraine’s Black Sea port of Sevastopol and blamed Ukrainian politicians for calling into question its future.

    By Dmitry Solovyov

    SEVASTOPOL, Ukraine, Sept 15 (Reuters) – A senior Russian naval officer said on Monday that Moscow wanted to keep its base in Ukraine’s Black Sea port of Sevastopol and blamed Ukrainian politicians for calling into question its future.

    The port city in the Crimea peninsula has been home to Russia’s Black Sea fleet for 225 years, though Ukraine’s pro-Western President Viktor Yushchenko has spoken out against renewing Russia’s lease, which will expire in 2017.

    While the Russian navy could move to a Russian base under construction, it is less suitable than Sevastopol, Rear-Admiral Andrei Baranov, the Black Sea fleet’s deputy chief said.

    “I personally am not going to go away, and nor will our ships. It’s all up to our supreme commander to decide,” he said, referring to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev. “We are not planning to go anyway. There are no options.”

    He criticised Ukraine’s leadership for raising the future status of the port and said the base was being used as a political weapon.

    “Of course, it’s a very advantageous factor for them, to settle their political interests, speculating on our presence here,” he told reporters.

    Debate over the presence of Russia’s navy on Ukrainian territory has sharpened after Russia’s intervention in Georgia.

    New questions are being raised about latent pro-Russian sentiment in Crimea, a region populated mainly by ethnic Russians and handed to Ukraine only in 1954 in Soviet times.

    Russian nationalist politicians have periodically called for the return of Sevastopol to Russian control, though the Kremlin has dissociated itself from such statements.

    WARSHIPS, AIRCRAFT

    Russia’s Black Sea fleet includes about 50 warships and smaller vessels. Aircraft include up to 80 planes and helicopters with 13,000 servicemen stationed in the Black Sea port, according to a Russian Ministry of Defence factsheet.

    “You don’t have a better base for a fleet in the entire Black Sea … The geography of the harbour, you wouldn’t find anything like this in the whole of Russia,” Baranov said.

    Russia would proceed with construction of new naval vessels and a base on Russian territory in the port of Novorossiisk, though Baranov said it occupied a less favourable geographic position than Sevastopol.

    Vladimir Lysenko, chief counsellor at Russia’s Kiev embassy, said Moscow wanted to prolong the current deal and Kiev’s attempts to open negotiations nine years before the expiry of the agreement were “premature”.

    Lysenko said many Russians believed that the area around the port was historically part of Russia and criticised Ukraine’s decision to deny entry to Moscow’s mayor after he spoke out on the issue earlier this year.

    “The mayor of Moscow, Yuri Luzhkov, has never called into question Ukraine’s territorial integrity,” Lysenko said.

    “But the very fact that Moscow’s mayor was made persona non grata for expressing a view which is shared by many in Russia, causes our indignation. We cannot agree with this.” (Writing by Conor Sweeney)

    in reply to: Russian Space & Missile[ News/Discussion] Part-3 #1785174
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    Implementation of air-space defense concept keeps up with plan – company

    ATHENS. Oct 8 (Interfax-AVN) – Almaz-Antei is successfully resolving all set tasks to implement the Russian air and space defense concept, the concern’s spokesman told Interfax-AVN at the Defendory 2008 arms show in Athens on Wednesday.

    “The air defense concern fully accomplished the task under the state defense order and military-technical cooperation with foreign states. The concern solved all planned tasks as to the implementation of the air and space defense, the development of a multi-service air defense system, as well as the modernization of air defense means,” the spokesman said.

    Companies that are parts of Almaz-Antei increased production volumes of modern air defense systems 1.6 times in 2007 compared to 2006, the spokesman said.

    Production volumes of civil products increased as well. Production of digital TV devices grew 1.46 times in 2007, while production volumes of systems for the federal air control system and the single system of organizing air traffic doubled, he said.

    Almaz-Antei worked out measures that allow to switch from local to global technical and technological re-equipment of companies making the concern, he said. This was done in order to continue successfully delivering products to Russian and foreign customers, he added.

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