Regarding phazotron NIIR RADARS:

Zhuk-AE

FGA29: 575mm, 680 T/R Modules, 3 m2 target @ 130 km, 220 kg, Track 30, Attack 6
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e338/Hyperwarp/Hobbies/Military/RUS/Avionics/Zhuk-A/zhukaemj2bo2.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e338/Hyperwarp/Hobbies/Military/RUS/Avionics/Zhuk-A/Zhuk-AontheMiG-35.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e338/Hyperwarp/Hobbies/Military/RUS/Avionics/Zhuk-A/maks2005d1228.jpg

FGA35: 700mm, 1088 T/R Modules, 3 m2 target @ 200 km, 280 kg, Track ??, Attack ?

http://www.aviapedia.com/forum/field-trials/t-phazotron-zhuk-ae-aesa-radar-654.html
http://www.janes.com/extracts/extract/jav/jav_b093.html
http://www.missiles.ru/AESA_ph_5.htm

And about the whole western AESA Vs. Russian AESA….

Well actually how many nations have fielded (in service) fighter-borne AESA?

US: F-22 (AN/APG-77), F-16E/F (AN/APG-80), F-15 (AN/APG-63(V)2), F/A-18E/F (AN/APG-79)

Japan: F-2 (J/APG-1)

Who else? :confused:

What are the in-service X-Band fighter-borne AESA in europe? :confused:

comparisions are only valid a when economic,industrial conditions are same. Under similar conditions no one can produce like Russians in time line and cost.
India hasnt signed up for M2K slotarray radar and will take very long time for even to complete M2K upgrade with slot arrays.. EU simply cannot produce capable radar on India time scale and money.

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1256021&highlight=zhuk+afar#post1256021

Moscow. On June 3. Interfax -[AVn] – corporation “ [NIIR]” begins the final stage of the tests of airborne radar with the impulse phased cascade (Afar).

“AESA Radar is now over third most critical stage of tests”, said “to Interfax -[AVN]” the Director-General of corporation -[NIIR]” Yuri [Guskov]. Tuesday

According to him, the result of these tests will be the completely fly-capable radar, which ensures work in the regime “air-to-air” and “air-surface” with cartography of map.

“On the Indian tender we should demonstrate not only the work of radar onboard the fighter MiG-35, but also the combat employment of rockets “air-to-air” on the aerial targets and “air-surface” on the ground targets”, said [Yu].[Guskov].

He noted that the radar with the AESA possesses great opportunities in comparison with all other radars. “Certainly, grows its complexity, but this complexity gives advantages. One of the advantages – high reliability. The second, this is the more broadband, which will make it possible to integrate radar with the system of EW, the data-transmission system and other onboard systems. I.e. to have a smaller quantity of antenna systems on this aircraft.

“Among other things, of course, rises the radiated power of radar”, it said [Yu].[Guskov].

He explained, that the radiating power in the airborne AESA radar is contained in each element. And if in one element on the order of 8 watts, then with thousands of elements we will have eight kilowatts. To make a transmitter to 8 kilowatts with the usual antenna and to place it on board the aircraft is very complicated.

the distance of 300-400 km is real for this radar. Of course even on [BRLS] Zhuk we today ensure the distance 200 km, but in radar with AESA it will be even more. This radar gives to fighter new military characteristics, significantly enlarges its possibilities”, said [Yu].[Guskov].

According to him, electronic scanning makes it possible to simultaneously ensure regime “air-to-air” and “air-surface”, to work with the group and individual targets, to determine their type and class. AESA, for example, makes it possible to distinguish if it’s F -16 or MiG-21, MiG-29 and so forth

[Yu].[Guskov] noted that the Americans, who also participate in the Indian tender, in the development of AESA radar went somewhat forward. “But they are occupied by this matter on the order of 10 years, spent for the AESA development enormous money. We cannot allow ourselves this and therefore thus far we come out in the role of that overtaking. But in this case it is little more easily, since already there is the specific world experience. I think that on the Indian tender we, in the final analysis, will appear not worse than Americans”, it said [Yu].[Guskov].

It noted that the Russian industry today develops and produces all elements of AESA starting from the monolithic integrated circuits, which are the basic element of the receiving-transmitting module, and ending with other systems of radar.

“I do not doubt, that our proposals to the Indian tender are better than of our competitors. Hardly the Americans will agree to the transfer of India of all technologies including the technology of monolithic integrated circuits production. We consider India as strategic partner in the military sphere so are ready to develop with this country the collaboration on such largest science-intensive projects as the creation of the fighter of the fifth generation, which it will undoubtedly contain AESA radar, said [Guskov].

Defense Industry

Tests of radar for upgraded Indian MiG-29s to start before yearend

MOSCOW. June 4 (Interfax-AVN) – The Fazotron-NIIR corporation is developing a new modification of its Zhuk airborne radar to be integrated into the MiG-29 aircraft of the Indian Air Force, subject to modernization.

“The MiG-29 upgrade contract with the Indian Air Force is being implemented in compliance with the agreed schedule. We are to assemble and start tests of the prototypes of the new airborne radar by the end of the year,” corporation’s CEO Yury Guskov told Interfax-AVN.

According to him, the new modification will be designated the Zhuk-M2. “Given the avionics of the aircraft will be considerably renewed, the radar also has to be adjusted. For instance, its interface will be changed. Moreover, India has specified additional requirements for the radar, which we are about to meet,” he said, noting that as soon as the radar is tested in Russia and India accepts the test results, the full-scale upgrade of the MiG-29 aircraft will start in India.

“We have no technical problems. By autumn this year we expect to have the aircraft fully equipped to start connecting the radar to the weapon control system in order to conduct both demonstration flight and combat employment of the upgraded fighter,” Guskov said

I did not say the aircraft is inferior. I implied that the claim that the AESA radar is superior is false.

Manufacturer is saying it is not inferior to F-18E radar which is larger aircraft and more in line with Su-35. so how it is not superior to non-existent EU AESA. remember Russians work in different time lines and cost schedules that no one can match.

Its AESA radar is less developed than theirs. Look at how long theirs have been in test, & how many other AESA radars the same manufacturers make & sell – some in active service. The MiG-35 radar also uses T/R modules of an earlier generation, with a much worse power/weight ratio.

MIG-35 Radar will be finished by end of this year with full air to air and air to ground weopons and will be sent to India for actual trials. range of 300 to 400 kim is guranteed according to manufacturer.
New weopons were not allowed in 2007 but i think they will offer it with MIG-35 as shown in poster on another thread.

Moscow Air Show

War on Two Fronts for Russia’s Missile Builders
Aviation Week & Space Technology
09/10/2007, page 68

Douglas Barrie and Alexey Komarov
Zhukovsky, Russia

Funding tap turned back on for Russia’s guided-weapons sector, but hurdles remain

Although Tactical Missiles Corp. was able to display some of its ongoing air-to-surface developments at the show, it was not in a similar position in the air-to-air arena. The company had planned to display several improved systems, but the necessary government clearance was not forthcoming.

In the air-to-air missile (AAM) market, the company is confronting similar pressures as those it faces in the air-to-surface sector—the need to refresh its products, both for the air force and export. The R-73 (AA-11 Archer) infrared-guided short-range missile design is around 30 years old, with the weapon already in service for 20 years. The R-77 (AA-12 Adder) active radar-guided medium-range missile program began in the early 1980s.

Russian industry sources suggest the company was planning to display an improved version of the R-73, likely the K-74M. This program was first revealed at the Moscow air show in 1997; but in recent years, the company has not been able to discuss the development. This improved variant of the Archer is now believed to be in flight tests. The missile has an improved IR seeker with a wider look-angle.

It’s likely that the R-77 upgrade the company had ambitions to display corresponds to the Izdeliye (Article) 170-1. This is a limited upgrade to the basic Adder, with an improved seeker and guidance laws that allow the missile to follow a lofted trajectory. A far more extensive modification, likely known as the Izdeliye 180 (K-77M), will introduce a dual-pulse motor, and probably see the missile’s present lattice fins replaced by conventional control surfaces.

While an upgraded MiG-31BM Foxhound was on view at the show, Tactical Missiles’ ambitions to display the aircraft’s long-range air-to-air armament was thwarted. The upgraded Foxhound is meant to carry an improved long-range missile rather than the R-33 (AA-9 Amos). This missile is likely the K-37M, a further development of the K-37 (AA-X-13). Again, this weapon is said to be in flight test.

In my opinion, the biggest winner would be MiG. Every other aircraft has somehow a homemarket, or some secured orders.
It’s MiG’s last chance to survive.

MIG owns klimov/Phozotron. They both have large scale heli engine/radar orders. There is large scale UAV/UCAV under Russian military doctorine. MIG has upgrade work for MIG-31 and will continue to support 1600 MIG-29 through modernization. It will still be called MIG but its trade mark product may not be fighter like from Second World war.

Production premis for MIG fighter was handed over to Irkut for A-320 conversion into cargo variant.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/lukhovitsy.htm
Lukhovitsy Machine Building Plant (LMZ)
Lukhovitsy Aviation Production and Test Complex (LAPIK

In March 2007 MiG agreed to hand over to the Irkut Research and Production Corporation its production premises at Lukhovitsy, Moscow Region, which Irkut planned to use to convert European Airbus 320 airplanes into cargo aircraft. “The Lukhovitsy plant could be either leased to Irkut following a decision by the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) or physically transferred from their statement to [our] assets,” said Oleg Demchenko, Irkut president. “But this will only be possible after MiG has been incorporated and joins the UAC [which must take place early in 2008].”

The crazy thing is they actually built and tested the nuclear ramjet. Here are the 5 pieces of the Discovery Wings episode on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e88WtJvSt7E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx54JbHekq0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__D97C71oP8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lj5eaQ41hE <— go to 3:55 on this piece to see the reactor running. The orange glow is the bare reactor in operation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLReXKFP8rs

Estimated cost PER MISSILE: $220 million – $317 million in 1999 dollars.

$600m in 2008 dollars. not a practical solution.

I was under the impression that the Mig-35 as it currently stands does NOT have thrust vectoring, but comes as an export option. :confused:

Current MIG-35 is MIG-29M2 with AESA but there is MIG-29OVT where system is certified but it is moot point as new MIG family has 90% comonality among themselves. So there isnt huge difference between MIG-29K and MIG-35.

Star

Just for my curiosity Star if Russia were to cut off its energy sales to Europe and Turkey what would be the impact on its economy?.

I am not going into deep economics analysis but Russia had dont calculations. there wont be long term impact.

I believe Gazprom recently had to quadruple the amount it spent on resource exploration as many of its existing production fields were starting to get to the point where the easy to reach oil and gas was starting to dry up?.

http://www.economist.com/research/articlesBySubject/displaystory.cfm?subjectid=349002&story_id=11332313

Perhaps now isnt the best of times for them to be threatening the people who’re paying the bills?.

I wont go into public statements and worthless analysis from Economist. Russia natural resources polices are strategic secrets just like Weopons and they are going to continue the guessing game with rest of the world. Big Talk about investment is to reassure investors for desirability.
One thing is certain Putin is going to bend EU according to his wishes.