R27T & ET IIRC.
But without mid course update I don’t know how the range could be fully utilised except for tail chase engagementsi.
Nic
Indeed it is very far fetched. The IAF has had multiple opportunities to do DACT against F16s, and they also had the opportunity to do DACT with Typhoons and with Rafales. It’s not a nameless article on an internet forum that would change anything.
Nic
Well various pakistani websites claim he was exchange pilot in the turkish air force, which would explain that PAF didn’t participate in that particular exercise.
That said it doesn’t prove anything. It might still be a hoax.
Nic
And anyway, IIRC the first time RAF Typhoons attended Anatolian Eagle was in 8 – 19 June 2009, of which was the dates the RAF Typhoons first participated where as the PAF didn’t, at all.
Hmmm I think I’m going to have to call BS on that little “story”.
A stunt by the PAF to try and put the Indians off buying Typhoons? I think so, & I believe they, the Indians, know how the Typhoon performs against their aircraft anyway & they seem rather impressed by it. Nice try Pakistan.
A quick glance on google brought me to PAF forums, where it was said that the PAF pilots were flying turkish F16s, so it could have happened if PAF pilots flew with the turkish air force (exchange pilot or visiting I don’t know).
I seriously doubt that the PAF would try to tilt the balance like that. I’m fairly sure the IAF would smash the PAF whatever it buys for MMRCA.
Nic
You think that biased as he is, he’d make that up?
Nic
Oooops, I dropped it. :diablo:
Guessed you mixed it up with the soap 😮
By the looks of the canards it looks more like a Typhoon than a Rafale, maybe a case of a pilot misidentifying its foe :p
Nic
Back on topic, Eurofighter news :diablo:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/08/eurofighter_beaten_by_f16/page2.html
Impossible as we all know as only the Rafale is a stealthy upper super plane with Spectra cloaking device (why does it need it anyway?). You know Typhoon has such a big RCS and crappy ECM it can’t hide so it must fight its way through the defences.:p
Surely you mean super duper instead of upper super? :p
Nic
I wouldnt mind seeing Rafale in there.
I doubt they will even reply to an RFI this time around.
Remember than when the coreans made an RFI for their second round of purchase, only the F15K was proposed.
Nic
I’m sorry but I don’t see the logics. Sacrificing range to get one more air to air missile sounds silly in my opinion, and I don’t think no pilot in their right mind will look for a confrontation with enemy fighters if they have a strike mission to carry.
It would be much wiser to use the extra range to avoid the enemy fighters altogether, and either try to go undetected, or have a fighter sweep take care of the enemy fighters.
Seriously I really don’t understand your logics.
Nic
Ah yes that makes sense, it could mean they have used their numbers of cat launch and traps, but still have life in them.
But then it’s strange that more F18C/D don’t show up in USMC land based squadrons or offered for export?
Nic
No, not compared to dedicated WVR missiles that are closer to 100G at their optimal state right before burnout and relatively low alt.
Which missiles, got a link?
In anycase, 50g agile enough to intercept even manoeuvering targets.
Nic
Mica isnt agile when compared to WVR missiles,
but it does edge out AMRAAM BVR in agility.
50G isn’t agile?
Nic
BTW how does MICA IR have such an extraordinary range when it is a mere 20 cm longer than ASRAAM and only 22 kg’s heavier ?
Beats me.
Well I really like the Mica concept of a super agile dogfight/BVR missile with both EM & IR seeker, so I hope they build up on the sam concept for its successor.
Nic