Anything “active” is inherently unstealthy and gives away the element of surprise.
Well I could be a smartass and make you the same reply that sferrin/jackjack/wrightwing made to kkpwhatever in the 4.99 gen fighter thread. 😀
A Buccaneer-style rotating fairing would be no less complicated or heavy, or have any less impact on aerodynamics or RCS, than the system in the F-22. Either way, the correct long term solution is a LOAL missile so that the doors can be opened only for as long as it takes to fire the missile. This is largely why the AIM-9X has not been a priority to date, since the initial Block 1 AIM-9X is LOBL only and so does not bring a huge capability difference on the F-22.
I think it would be good to have a LOBL mode because the F22 has no IRST, so the missile would bring one more sensor to the Raptor.
Nic
The F-22 uses the AIM-9M currently with LOBL. The AIM-9 bay door opens and the rail extends the missile so that its seeker is exposed.
The AIM-9X Block 2 is LOAL capable so quicker shots will be possible since the missile will not have to acquire the target on the rail.
I think in this day and age the raptor needs a 9X not a 9M, but I’m sure it’s going to come soon enough. The layout of the weapons bay for the AIM9 defies common sense though. Some panel that’d just flip around would be much less complicated and would allow you to fly with the 9X with less penalty, be it aerodynamic or RCSic. Same principle as the buccaneer bomb bay.
Nic
Damnit your posts are hard to understand.
Anyway, in Dogfight TWR is utmost important as well as flying clean since drag of the external weapons makes you lose more energy. Here the F22 has the advantage.
Now the drawback of the F22 is that it doesn’t have a dogfight missile. Nor LOBL capability which could come in handy to pull a quick shot compared to firing an AMRAAM.
If it were me I would make a special weapon bay for AIM9X. It would be extremely easy to make and use with rail launch a AIM9X: put a panel that can rotate on iself and expose a sidewinder that’s mounted on a normal rail pylon à la F8 crusader. The panel would need to be symetrical so the only difference when it’s “open” would be the added pylon and 9X that would be external. When you need stealth you fly with the 9X inside, when you df you fly with the 9X outside, with it’s seeker adding as an additional sensor for the plane. I don’t know if I’m making myself clear. The panel should flip like the ID panel on James Bond’s cars, only one side would be empty and the other side would carry a winder. That way you could fly around with a 9X or any IR missile without flying with a bay open (drag + RCS penalty).
Nic
You can often tell those who have no argument by looking at how they debate. It is pretty funny and very revealing to watch how sferrin and pfcem twist around like a fish out of the water.
Nic
With an edge to the F22. After all it remained undefeated while still downing 1 Rafale. I think TV + TWR might give it an edge; but with 90KN engines in the Rafale that may change.
Nic
EADS should bid with a very very low cost; heck they should bid with a price even below their costs.
Those hypocrites are never going to select the NG offer so might as well force boeing to lower their pants.
jackjack learn to read FFS
*6: Once cancelling the normal restriction of FBWs, Rafale’s AoA could reach more than 100 degrees.
32° AoA is a software limit;
Besides toan is comparing the Rafale with the SH not the legacy hornet.
Yes even if you are logged in you get to read the posts when people quote them, which is most of the time.
Nic
Great lets go to them and ask them to define what it all means and then we can all use what they have to say as our benchmark…(Sarcasm intended!). You haven’t read or comprehended anything of what I have said have you…
I haven’t got anything to get over, my thinking is clear on the matter. You on the other hand haven’t got a clue! No point making any further conversation I don’t want your stupid to rub off on me.
LoL
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1549285&postcount=333
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Nic, feel free to use the “ignore option” of this forum.
most of the time I browse the forum without logging in… so it doesn’t work that well
No need to be rude.
This thread starts to smell like strategy page. And it’s not good.
Thanks to ONE person who has been trolling every rafale thread lately. Do I need to name him? You can’t read a thread where the Rafale is mentionned without stumbling on his trolling.
i did actually read that one of the original rcs reduction was to put the air intakes under the over hanging fuselage
There is no airbrakes on the Rafale. Any retarded factoid you would like to add?
Nic
Might as well invest in a S400 batterie rather than have a short ranged stealth fighter. Or even develop stealth cruise SAMs, say by replacing the warhead in a stom sshadow by two asraams capable of attacking a pair of intruders.
Nic
I seriously doubt the US would buy the A400M in the mentionned numbers, however I see it being procured on a much smaller scale (say 15-20 units) for special operations work where a hercules wouldn’t be enough and the C17 too big.
Nic