And there we go again. The Americans…
Can we keep the debate around facts ? It’s a product. A product selected in term of perfs and capabilities.
When your wife go to the supermarket to buy some detergents, do you submit her to such diatribes about the US and how buying bleach and other products increase the US dominion on the Freedom of Eu ?
Well, see it as it is: the 35 promise juts to be a flying bleach jug. Clean your skies from intruder, swap enmy forces from the ground, pinpoint and erase any group of maniac killer wrapping their madness with ideologies where ever they hide.
Oh, and don’t call my post irrational… I am just straying for a minute in your rhetoric…
Bull of the highest magnitude. The F35 sells only because of the immense power of the good old US of A. It has nothing to do with perfs & capabilities whatsoever.
Nic
djcross, I find most of your posts very interesting, but this fascination with airshow on president’s day parade has got to end!
Meh you’re right I had a mindslip. Qatar still have them.
Nic
Yes that’s what I meant. Tactics & training are the most important factors in AtoA combat. People make a fixation of the F15 kill/loss ratio, but pretty much the same could be said of most Israeli planes when used mostly in AtoA.
Nic
If you want to prove the superiority of the IAF against the neighbouring counties, look no further than the kill count of the Mirage III, which is pretty much a contemporary to Mig 21. Israel received less than 80 of them, & claimed 48 kills in the six days war, & 106 during Yom Kippur war; while at the same time, the IAF claims 5 Mirage III losses in AtoA engagements. That’s just as impressive as the kill ratio of the F15.
Nic
Edit: Locally produced Mirage derivatives aren’t counted in those stats, with Neshers claiming another 140 victories during the Yom Kippur war.
There are two sides to every story. The truth is usually somewhere between the two.
Re your sig:
This sort of reasoning always advantages the liar.
Nic
Is it just me or have there been a lot of dramatic flashes and bangs in the sky recently….?
I wonder what is the most scary, the light flash or the music that bloke is listening to.
Nic
Oh God NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!1
Nic
And who is flying SAPIR?
The same blokes that are flying operational F35s.
Nic
I agree.
I would say more : there is less propaganda in RT than in France 2.
Speaking of France 2, I still fondly remember one episode of “envoyé special” where the journalists were going disguised and with hidden cam so some terrorist organization wouldn’t know they are in the country and kidnap them, while they were going to… interview the chief of that organization 😀
Nic
How come russian news are propaganda & western news are, well… news?
From the very little watching I do of the news in France (because it tends to irritate me), I can tell you that it is actually propaganda & not news.
Even if RT was spouting propaganda, I can assure you that it’s no worse than what I can see in the french media.
Nic
Holy crap that thing is fugly.
Nic
No wonder the OFCOM is trying to shut down RT 😮
Nic
But how do they do it without a swashplate? :apologetic: