Thanks for that. ‘Bovi’ is my local, three miles over the hill, and I wander around there quite often. I think I am going to be allowed to drop in in my J3 Cub, on one of the shorter runways (owned by a farmer, who has a PA28) and have often flown over as low as I dare, but with the prison partially on site, it is better not to go nuts!
I ran across some more filming recently in the tower, for some production/movie called ‘Ten Dead Men’, it seemed ultra violent, with everyone getting smacked around and shot at!
In the forum archives are some great shots of Hanover Street and the 5 Mitchells- the search facility should reveal all. As I posted recently on another thread, look at Aboutmyplace website (go to birdseye) and see how complete it still is!
This IS a bit troubling.
If there were to be a global nuclear holocaust, would it affect the value of my house?
This IS a bit troubling.
If there were to be a global nuclear holocaust, would it affect the value of my house?
Pobjoy pilots will tell you they neeed two hours engine tinkering for every hour in the air.
The Olympic juggernaut is utterly out of control now. The long-debased athletics tournament has become a giant, bloated balloon ( to mix metaphors)which will soon go bang more or less in paralell with the global economy, and is now much more an international willy-waving contest which has lost contact with any notions of perspective, budget or logic.
The ‘ 3 pounds’ waffle, if there is any truth in it, would be 3 x 60 years = £180 per person x 60 milllion population. I have no wish to spend my £180 on a running, jumping and throwing contest, but seemingly do not have the option to withhold my funds.
Many people love the Olympics, and I wish them well, and applaud the idea of fitness and personal endeavour. However, we (nation GB) cannot afford to kind of contest we seem to be revving up for, and it will become a HUGE waste of resourses if it is not reigned in now.
We should hold it in Hyde Park, with existing paths for running already round the perimeter, open parkland for throwing stuff and the cycleways are also already in place. There is a nice big pond for swimming, and trees you could dive off. Sailing and under-water ping-pong can be easily accomodated
If that fantastic solution is rejected then get real, abandon the UK host concept, and relocate to the home of the Olympics, ie Athens ,where all the facilities are in place, and crying out to be used.
It would be seen by some as a bitter blow to our national prestige, but better than than a half-cocked, semi-finished attempt which cripples us with debt until the end of time. Don’t believe the hype and the VI’s (vested interests) – the Millenium Dome fiasco will be a mere sideshow in comparison
The Olympic juggernaut is utterly out of control now. The long-debased athletics tournament has become a giant, bloated balloon ( to mix metaphors)which will soon go bang more or less in paralell with the global economy, and is now much more an international willy-waving contest which has lost contact with any notions of perspective, budget or logic.
The ‘ 3 pounds’ waffle, if there is any truth in it, would be 3 x 60 years = £180 per person x 60 milllion population. I have no wish to spend my £180 on a running, jumping and throwing contest, but seemingly do not have the option to withhold my funds.
Many people love the Olympics, and I wish them well, and applaud the idea of fitness and personal endeavour. However, we (nation GB) cannot afford to kind of contest we seem to be revving up for, and it will become a HUGE waste of resourses if it is not reigned in now.
We should hold it in Hyde Park, with existing paths for running already round the perimeter, open parkland for throwing stuff and the cycleways are also already in place. There is a nice big pond for swimming, and trees you could dive off. Sailing and under-water ping-pong can be easily accomodated
If that fantastic solution is rejected then get real, abandon the UK host concept, and relocate to the home of the Olympics, ie Athens ,where all the facilities are in place, and crying out to be used.
It would be seen by some as a bitter blow to our national prestige, but better than than a half-cocked, semi-finished attempt which cripples us with debt until the end of time. Don’t believe the hype and the VI’s (vested interests) – the Millenium Dome fiasco will be a mere sideshow in comparison
The nature of a debate involves digesting opinions at varience with your own.
What is the point in pontificating on the possible actions of an imaginary body, which has little prospect of ever coming into being? I am also ill at ease with the assumed powers of this imaginary body, who will seemingly swoop in, and ‘take into custody’ any airframe deemed to be ‘at risk’ or being historically significant, or something.
What about the restorers and volunteers whose efforts have preserved the thing in the first place. Do they just step aside and watch their ‘baby’ disappear on a low-loader?
It is a curse of our times, peoples acceptance and even love of ‘big government’ which will move in, take over, tell us how things should be, because somebody else knows best.
I envy you that sound and spectacle, but my reference was to the present state of the sole survivor, and the likelihood of it attracting funds in the face of other contemporary competition, and naturally one thinks of the Vulcan.
I confess I have not visited in person the cherished Beverley, but made a rash guess that it is no longer very noisy save perhaps the wind moaning through the propeller blades, or the raindrops bouncing off the slab-sided fuselage.
I sense that Pagen01 relishes some sort of a debate, even though everybody seems to broadly agree that it would be great to secure the future of the aeroplane. However, in the absence of any statutory or charitable body in a position to make a difference, there doesn’t really seem an awful lot to discuss.
We have a least concluded that the Bev was a bit of a turkey, but we love it anyway:)
Hawkers did not name it the Tempest Light Fighter for nothing!
Hang on, there’s some microlights in there. It IS a hangar !
Even Panshanger is tidier than that.:)
Crikey!, I have seen some ropey hangars before…………………
Perhaps it is just a factory/warehouse.
What important role was that? Compared to , say, the C-130, the Beverley was not much of a success, and seemed to be used to used to support the last fading outposts of the British Empire in place like Aden.
Its not much a sales pitch, for the public who would be just as happy to look at a Fibre-glass Spitfire, or even better, a Jet Provost they could sit in.
The Beverley seem to be remembered more for its unreliability ( engines) than almost anything else. They are quirky, ugly, and just the kind of aeroplanes I love, but I can’t afford to put a roof over it, and I have doubts that the kind of money required (£150k?) could be found.
We aviation nuts sometimes forget the overall indifference to matters of heritage and preservation . Right now is a pretty bad time to be trying to raise funds for something which most people have barely any interest in. Unlike the Vulcan, it is not even noisy and spectacular.
My prediction is that the last Beverly will continue to be looked after as best it can for some time yet, until some Health and Safety audit declares it dangerous due to corrosion in the wings, ( as at Hendon) and it is dismantled/chopped up leaving just a fuselage, probably minus the tail as well.
Sorry:(
Don’t know if it is ‘cynical’ or not, but it is business, and nobody makes a fortune from publishing aviation literature.
As mentioned above, any in-depth technical content would go over the head of 90% of the readership, who neither know nor care how to adjusty the oleo dampers in a Lancaster tailwheel ( if it has such things!).
You can do that for a MG Midget, because it is small, and quite simple, and there are many owners who actively need the technical details. For a large aeroplane, it would be 15 Volumes, and if all the UK Lancaster owners bought a complete copy, you would make three sales.
That said, the Tiger Moth is simple enough to make it reasonable to provide more engineering detail without consuming whole rain-forests, and it is possible that the editorial content could move more in that direction.
However, any Tiger rebuilder/restorer HAS to refer to existing manuels which already contain comprehensive instructions and specs, so duplicating more than a flavour of that for an enthusiasts’ publication is fairly pointless.
There is one underway on the Tiger Moth, on which certain forum members have very significant input.