Anyone wanting to obtain copy of the book can PM me, as I find myself with two.
I suppose they had more ‘press-on’ spirit in those days. Nowadays they wouldn’t even allow the kids to start it up at playtime. Safety Nazis.
B17 Swamp Ghost (PNG) now recovered, was pretty overgrown.
In the photo you can see that they are still searching for the second pilot.
That is the kind or terrain that looks great for a forced landing from 2,000 feet but get down to finals and it all looks rather different. He/she did well to keep it upright.
Not only was it donated to the local school, but it was delivered by air, straight to the playground!
The Martin Baker MB5 was reckoned to be outstanding.
It was just rather too late to make a difference, as the jet era arrived.
OOOPS. Have just cleaned glasses and realised it asked country, not company. Still that can be a whole new thread!
I would hate to offend the resident Mitchell nuts (being one myself! ) so as a gesture of solidarity offer up another.
Ex Southend, ex North Weald, now Booker, and awaiting the attentions of a Quik Fit Fitter.
”Negative on the flyby Ghostrider-the pattern is full ! ”
All this B25 guff is hopelessly off-topic, since it was not in any brambles !
Most of my derelicts are pre-digital, and being without a scanner I am a bit stuck, but just for intrique here is a Bristol Freighter at Beaver Lodge Lake in NW territories Canada. Taken this year , showing CF-TFZ, crashed in 1956. It sank through ice and was hauled to shore.
The ‘booking’ is for safety only, to avoid airborne conflict and minimise noise.
I do not imagine the pilots think they have a particular right to go anywhere, but Greenham has a number of advantages, being substantially uninhabited, and offering a good height ceiling.
The proximity of Heathrow precludes practice to the east, so they have to look more to the south and west, north being near Booker and offering just 2,500 ft anyway.
Many practices are flown overhead WW as pilots are cleared with DA’s down to 100 feet. They do not, I believe , simply seek to take their noise to someone else’s parish and if Popham were actually copping a lot of flak for their activities I imagine they ( flyers) would do something about it. Having said that, I remain an impartial observer and speak on nobody’s behalf. My impression is that they are reasonable individuals, and would seek an amicable solution should a real problem be seen to exist.
White Waltham (25 miles ) is a hub of aerobatic excellence, with Paul Bonhomme, Alan Cassidy and many more based here.
Greenham is one of a number of sites for practice, and you would probably see SU29, Yak55, Yak52, Pitts, Extra as the primary campaigners.
Pilots ‘book’ the box at operations, and the use is rotated to minimise noise to any single location place. However, the airspace is not ‘owned’ in any sense, and if someone else turns up in his Scruggs Wundaplane to do some aeros, that is his right.
It is (was) very dense in content and quite a hefty academic read at times.
I would not be surprised if the quantity of readers with the required concentration levels is slowly diminishing beyond critical mass. Added to which is maybe the difficulty in finding fresh editorial content, especially given the wealth of resourses online.
I have a huge stack (1970’s -1984) if anyone interested- much cheapness.
BBC website saying Army helicopter. There are 2 rescue helicopters attending.
It has not had a lot of luck of late, having gone over on its back at Long Marston in Nov 2005.
Depends I suppose what you call ‘no time’ . In the case of that Southend incident in took from mid July 2006 to June 2007 to compile the report.
I do not mean to be cynical, but I can not comprend the great merit in adopting a mass-silence, when we could respectfully acknlowledge the circumstances of events like this, and derive genuine safety benefits right now, especially when people are feeling roused, alerted and tuned in, which is probably quite a receptive learning state.
Be it the dreaded ‘Speculation’ or not, this could be an appropriate time to consider.
* The effects of ambient temperature on t/o distance
* The potential implications of flying with a full passenger load
* The effects of a heavy fuel load when embarking on a longish leg
* Performance factors when operating from grass.
Blue Robin sounds as though he has something to say.
I personally do not see the merit in this rather mannered reticence.
If we (active pilots ) have cause to think about this NOW, we may yet prevent someone else/us stuffing in tomorrow.
AAIB will produce a very illuminating report. Next year.