Looks as though those warbling birds at the start have found a plentiful supply of black market rations 😉
G-INFO shows it as “permanently withdrawn from use” and de-registered on 5/6/1996 when it was owned by Aces High at North Weald. Not much help but it does tie in with your sighting at Aces High.
Look at post 264 on this thread ( two good photos )
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?34240-Memphis-Belle-Filming-1989/page8
Latest issue is now online – https://www.facebook.com/download/117889461719551/AWAL%20Dispatch%2023-7-13%20v2.pdf
Their latest news ( as shown on the website ) is entirely political, without any aeroplane news at all.
It seems to be an organisation with a lot of problems
POWER STRUGGLE*
DAMAGING TO AWAL!
Three months ago your organization was on a high. We were growing, were financially*
strong, making gains with freedoms to fly, and were (and still are) held in high regard with*
CASA, with a highly effective and respected CEO and DSA management team. Every*
aspect of that is now seemingly being called into question!*
Misinformation, unfounded rumours, and completely inaccurate articles in the media risk*
bringing AWAL’s reputation into disrepute, along with its board and management, and to*
say the least are destabilising.*
http://www.australianwarbirds.com.au/pdf/AWAL_Dispatch_8-2-13.pdf
That’s too bad.
Even as a museum exhibit it would be appreciated. At the very least a cockpit.
We should not be scrapping rare 50 year old airframes.
It’s been lovingly dismantled with a disc-cutter. :apologetic: What a shame….
We are hooked, addicted to this intoxicating business of flight, watching it, living it and loving it.
But at times like this the toll seems so high, too cruel, and for those whom it touches, there really are no words..
There is already a two-tier pricing structure in place for Spitfires. Just look at Platinum Fighter Sales’ website. They are offering an older restoration of a Mk IX Spitfire, done 25 years ago and with some 350 hours on both engine and airframe since restoration, for $3.4m. Around $2.2m will get you a recently-restored Mk XVIII, with less than 5 years and 50 hours since restoration.
Evidently there is even ‘Spitfire snobbery’ within the Spitfire community.
Snobbery ? Some marks are perceived as more desirable than other for reasons such as historical significance or handling qualities, and to make that distinction does not merit disdain , disapproval or censure.
Nobody is being deceived by airframes on offer and their individual history. All information is ‘out there’ , what is what and where it came from, and nobody will spend seven figure sums and not know what it is they are buying into.
We seem to harbour a core of individuals who almost wish the ‘Spitfire restoration industry’ would shut down, pack up and disappear. Quite odd.
This was the incident
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Super%20Aero%2045%20Series%204,%20G-APRR%2006-09.pdf
This was the result
I am not aware if restoration is underway.
Hi Libor, and welcome!
Love the website, really stylish with a great retro-feel.
We had an Aero 145 flying here, but it had a rather bad accident and may not fly again. I am sure that as enthusiasts rather than a business, you will be accommodated on this forum, though it has to be said, money is scarce on the airshow scene, whether you have a Vulcan or a Tiger Moth.
Anyway, best of luck, and if you can get to the UK you will be made very welcome.
It’s all very cute, and I understand that it’s an in-joke to which I am not privy, but what is the title of “the boo…”? I’d like to buy one, but Amazon doesn’t recognize the title The Boo.
Awww Shucks ! Send me $10 and I will give you a password for the ‘in joke’ .
Check this out.
I believe it is a buyer’s market for many types, especially old twins ( not strictly historic ) which guzzle fuel, cost a fortune in engine/prop overhaul and do very little that a modern turbo prop single cant. Even though they look cheap, they will soon have a resale value of zero, good only for salvage and re-cycling.
I predict that Tiger Moth prices too will collapse in the not -too -distant future. Most are owned and operated by , ahem, ‘senior pilots’, they are demanding of old-style piloting and engineering skills, are expensive to insure due to a too-high accident rate, and have limited appeal to a younger breed of pilot ( and there are not many of those either ) . There will be more than a few coming to market at £50-60 K with a dearth of takers to be found. Actual selling prices can only go one way……
Don’t forget the flying Maggie in Argentina.
Can often be better witnesses as they do not come with preconcepted knowledge that can cloud what they are actually seeing
Two summers ago I watched the Skyraider ram the P51 out of the sky at DX, saw the debris falling, and followed the path of the aircraft until both reached the ground, but had you asked me 5 minutes later exactly what I had seen, I was not really sure, and in struggling to come up with an account, would have added details which would subsequently have been found to be wrong.
Seems to be the old killer, stall/spin, base to finals.
No loss of any airframe parts, or engine issues. Eye witness accounts are often wrong, in fact, they are nearly always wrong.
”A significant number of witnesses, some with piloting experience, observed the aircraft turn right base for runway 21L. They recalled that the aircraft appeared to be flying very slowly prior to an abrupt left turn away from the runway. Their accounts described a loss of control that was consistent with an aerodynamic stall followed by a significant wing drop. The aircraft was then observed to descend steeply toward the ground with a degree of spiral evident along the descent path before being lost to sight behind trees and buildings.”
http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2013/aair/ao-2013-051.aspx
The Mall Galleries, near Admiralty Arch, London SW1
22nd – 28th July 2013
Public Opening Times
Tue/Wed/Fri/Sat 10am – 5pm
Thurs 10am – 8pm
Sun 10am – 12.30pm
ADMISSION FREE
Not heard of any recent activity so now would seem a good time to accept any information. The only two candidates that appear to be airworthy would appear to be N89FA and 9J-PAA, so any news?
maybe one flyer, seemingly, though the info may be dated.
Serial Construction no. Owner and notes
CF-EPV 8/10448 Cockpit section on display at small business centre at former Halesworth Airfield near Bungay, Suffolk, UK.
N83FA 5/10365 Crashed and destroyed at Griffin, Georgia, in April 1997 while in service with Academy Airlines. Remains still present.
N89FA 9/27249 Airworthy. Custom Air Service, Gainesville, Texas. Named Fat Annie – Miss 1944.
N103 7/10273 Crashed and destroyed near Venetia, Alaska, in 1997 while in service with Great Arctic Airways.
N898AT 20/42994 Brooks Fuel, Fairbanks, Alaska. Written off in landing accident at Nixon Fork Gold Mine, near McGrath, Alaska, 5/07.
9J-PAA 21/27314 Stored by Phoebus Apollo at Rand, Johannesburg. Ex N5459M.
From here http://www.oldprops.ukhome.net/Carvair%20Photographs.htm