GEN 11, never looked so lovely 😎 , is that THE original from the movie, or a replica. :confused:
The Cars of the Stars (Keswick, UK – ref earlier) website says:
http://members.aol.com/cotsmm/cotspg3.html
In fact six cars were used in this film. Two being the racing car, one in a dilapidated state and the other the racing car that crashes. At the end of the film neither of these versions survived. Four other Chittys were produced for various parts of the rest of the film. The hovercraft car, that transforms from car to hovercraft, and three other cars.
Rob / Kansan
Next stop Ralph Cusack’s team rebuilding the Beaufort.
Questions on any of the pics welcome – just can’t be bothered writing long captions to be frank!
What’s the story with the Fokker data plate in regard to the Beaufort?
Rob / Kansan
Next stop was the Queensland Museum. A classic collection of a state museum, but well provided with what must be a unique set – three world record breaking civil Avro aircraft. The remains of the Saharan Lancaster’s Avro are most poingent.
Enjoy.
Poignant!
Thanks for posting James, I certainly did enjoy! Did you by chance take any more pix of the wreckage of “Southern Cross Minor” ? (BTW I read on an old website that the team from Queensland who went to retrieve the wreckage from Algeria in the 70s looked for Bill Lancaster’s grave in Reggan but couldn’t find it.)
Rob / Kansan
A few other web resources for the curious:
http://www.nimitz-museum.org/cbiprimer.htm
Estimates are that nearly 1000 men and 600 planes were lost by war’s end
http://cbi-theater.home.comcast.net/menu/cbi_home.html
There’s an article about a fuel PIPELINE over the hump.
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/history/wwii/aeb6.htm
Fascinating snapshot of one more little detail in WWII history.
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1733.html
Has a nice pic of a C-46 over the Himalayas and claims that C-54s would replace the C-46s. I hadn’t heard this one before but there is some logic to it.
Rob / Kansan
How about Liberators too maybe?
I have been googling and found that C46 Commandoes were used. Crossing the ‘hump’ was nicknamed “Operation Vomit” by aircrews,
Dave (and others)
How many routes over the hump were there? I’ve never thought about it. IIRC from the books some of the first B-29s in the CBI were modified as flying tankers to get fuel for the remaining bomb-carrying B-29s. I think you can see little Camel markings on many B-29 bomb logs (e.g. 42-24579 “Eddie Allen” of Airfix kit fame) where they did a hump mission. The same is true for B-24/C-87/C-109. I don’t think they all made it out intact but I would suspect any wreckage from those areas is likely to be a lot of scrap metal rather than recoverable/usable pieces.
Now, about those Stirlings – one of which was piloted by Lord Lucan and had Shergar in the hold…. 😀
PS very pleased to see that “Aluminium” is in use in NZ. There’s far too much “aloominnum” here. 😀 😀
Rob / Kansan
Sobering/spooky thought
Have you noticed that this is an aircraft from the same raid as the one mentioned in the thread (by Pathfinder) about .50 ammunition on RAF bombers?
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=47802
Also – and here’s a spooky / sobering thing. If you look at a map of Germany and see where Torgau is – carry on Southwest and just to the south of Gotha is the little town of Gossel where the unidentified wreck with the .50 ammuniton is. I assume they were both on their way back when they were shot down.
And there were how many others missing from that raid alone?
I just checked again and the answer is 72 – 44 Lancasters and 28 Halifaxes. 504 blokes (assuming 7 in the crew).
It’s suddenly gone very quiet in my room.
Rob / Kansan
Many Thanks, Ido!
I appreciate your translation.
Rob/Kansan
Ta Very Much!!
Thank you, Chaps! It made the old nerve-endings tingle a little to see something I knew about personally surfacing from the historical data.
Rob / Kansan
anyone seen this page on some blenheim relics in NAfrica?
HI Jagan,
The original SAAF operation that went very very wrong was described in a certain British Historic Aviation Magazine. I think also some of the desert pics are posted elsewhere in this forum.
Rob / Kansan
May there be many more. 🙂
Is this site the Hebrew side of the ‘Wings48’ site?
Mark
Amen to that. I have a picture question which I shall PM to you later.
I don’t think this is the Wings48 site in Hebrew. Hopefully Haunted See will be back tomorrow and we can ask. Of course I may not be back because I’ve got a road trip for a couple of days. We’ll see how good the internet connectivity is in Nebraska hotels.
Rob / Kansan
The first ever Great Warbirds at West Malling – 1981?. Rained buckets. I took my Dad and we got soaked – took us two and a half hours to get out of the car park. (A record for us at the time)
The flying programme was severely disrupted by the rain (I think) and at some point a certain Mr. Hanna and A.N. Other went up in MH434 and the Candyman/Moose Mustang and chased each other in and out of the clouds which hung pretty low. It was wonderful. Was that routine unscheduled? Who was flying the P-51?
Rob / Kansan
Edit – Firebird says below it was 1982. That makes more sense to me, thinking about it… 🙂
Rob
small photos here (and profiles)
http://www.wings48.com/Consul.shtml
Martin
Martin – you are FAST!
So 28-08 (or 08-28 in the Hebreew) is PK257/G-AIOL?
Interesting!!
Thanks,
Rob / Kansan
Two links for you Hebrew speakers out there. There rest of you will just have to believe me!
It’s not only plausible, it’s actually a fact. Weizmann’s Black Spit is modelled after the Faid Spit.
( http://www.iaf-museum.org.il/site/museum.asp?pi=14&doc_id=135 )Israeli spitfires surviving around the world at http://www.iafe.net/ma/spit.htm . Halfway through is Black 57 – check out the bottom photo. It isn’t very good, but it’s not black either.
HS – This is fantastic. I will tell my Father about this – he’ll be interested. I showed him a picture of ES276 (the black Mark V Spitfire) which he didn’t remember – he certainly never flew it. He does have a picture somewhere of his flight/group/intake at Fayid featuring himself and Ezer Weizmann. He said to me when I was a kid they only had one fatality on their specific course. He finished at 73 OTU sometime before VE-Day – not sure when.
Any chance of an English summary of those sites? My Hebrew is very poor. Actually it’s non-existant.
It’s also a privilege to witness Mark12 finding a Spitfire picture he’s never seen before. 😀
Rob / Kansan
I was wondering if any serious investigation has ever been done in theWest African regions to see if any WWII aircraft exist in a recoverable state? I know a lot of RAf aircraft were sgipped to West Africa in WWII and ferried across the continent as far as Egypt for service in the desert or Med areas.
Has anyone ever looked into that region as a source?
I would say West Africa has as bad a climate as anywhere – way too hot and wet. If you rememeber the old Nigerian/Biafran civil war (1967-70) and a 2001 TV documentary film called “Jesus Christ Airlines” (I think Air Atlantique/Atlantic were involved in its production?) – about the Joint Church Aid Airlift – whcih was in itself amazing. In the film there are a couple of Constellations at one of the airfields some of the other “independent contractors” used – they were in a hell of a state in 2001. Anything older than that will be pretty worthless, I’m sure – although if all you need is a data plate, well hey, L-1049 anyone?
As for East Africa? Who knows? I would have thought the locals would have cut anything left up for scrap, like the North African machines. You can’t make a cooking pot out of a Matilda tank like you can out of a Blenheim!!
Zimbabwe? Surely not now. Things like politics and total economic deprivation get in the way. Uganda? I remember Hasegawa made a MiG-21 model with Ugandan markings. There must have been one or two…
Rob / Kansan
How about a Vietnam gunship with loads of replica miniguns out of the windows? 😀
Been done over here – look at http://www.squadron14.com/
It flew over my house a couple of months ago and freaked out a couple of local vietnam vets.
Rob / Kansan