Ah! A Waitrose customer I see.
Moggy
I suppose if you frequent certain of the Wal-Marts over here you don’t talk to no one who ain’t got no less than few thousand o’ them posts.
The Ozarks are only a few miles away. ๐
Rob / Kansan
PS Yesterday evening I saw what sounded like a historic aircraft last night making a rapid exit from the Atkinson Muncipal airport in Pittsburg. Piston engines (radials) Looked like a Beech 18 (yay!) but with a single fin. It was a way off and I was wrestling with a sprinkler. Any suggestions as to what it could have been? There aren’t any AT-10s left flying are there? UC-78?
I may post this in Historic Aviation….oh, just a minute, this IS Historic Aviation.
I know it’s off a simulator, but it looked nice!
A TSR.2 of 43 Squadron RAF bounces an Iraqi MiG-21
http://www.flightcraft-simulations.co.uk/images/mig-chase1.jpg
There are a few more too. I don’t have FS 2002 or 2004 so I can’t comment on the product itself.
Somewhere on the web there are/were a group of fantasy/”what if” modellers one of whom made a nice plausible model of a GAL-built TSR.2 of the RAAF making part of Australia’s contribution to the Vietnam war. Can’t find it now.
Rob/ Kansan
Must say the Westcountry TV reporter, Jon Andrews got it right but the BBC report was well wide of the mark, despite being briefed beforehand, he made several mistakes in the report and spoilt it.
That’s good. My local TV here couldn’t remember which war some RAF veterans were in when they visited their old training field in Oklahoma. The T-6 could have made a lot of difference to World War 1. :rolleyes:
Rob / Kansan
Just to let the forum members know, yes a book is being prepared to tell the story of the aircraft and its restoration by David Morris the museums Curator of Aircraft who led the restoration team. In the speech by the Chairman of the FAAM Trustees at the rollout, the link between the day and the story of ‘Hammy’ Gray was told to the assembled guests, but sadly not mentioned on any of the TV broadcasts.
Excellent! Thanks S93
Not unexpected of TV news reporting.
R/K
I don’t need any help. I just talk down to anybody with less than 4,000 postings anyway ๐
Moggy
Just like Rex’s dog. Piddle on anything less than a Squadron Leader. ๐
R/K
Hi all
Would anyone like to see some pics of FAA Museums corsair ?
Scott C
Do you need to ask? ๐
R/K
What’s the question?
I haven’t a clue what the rank thing is all about except it most definitely is time related rather than postings. :confused:
There used to be a ‘ranking’ but that was taken out by popular demand.
Moggy
There is/was something similar on ArmyAirForces which IMHO could be used to aid those who want to talk down to newbies. Jolly good thing if it was removed from here. Good Job!(as they say here).
Rob / Kansan
More OT – L1547 in the Mersey
Not alleged.
It was clearly visible to all the keen spotters (me included) from the terminal balcony throughout the late fifties and early sixties.
It was almost directly off the end of the main.
Moggy
Thanks Moggy.
I should have looked at this before – Nick Wotherspoon’s LAIT website has got some information about it.
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/lait/site/Hurricane%20L1547.htm
NB: Up until the 1970’s aircraft wreckage believed to be from this Hurricane could be seen at low tide, but has now disappeared into the ever-shifting deep mud, and it is believed that the remains are now buried under ballast from a light gantry for the airport. A few pieces of the aircraft were recovered in the 1960s when a couple of spars were showing about 50 yards out and these are now at the War Plane Wreck Museum at Fort Perch Rock, New Brighton. The canopy was apparently found on a local farm and went to a local ATC unit.
Rob / Kansan
Does Ginger Lacey’s book mention his time prior to the war, I’d be interested to know if he makes any reference to Geoff Warnes, who learnt to fly with Ginger Lacey in Yorkshire.
EN
I can go and dig my copy out over lunch and have a look. As long as you mean the Richard Townshend Bickers book. I don’t have anything written by the man himself.
Rob / Kansan
Look thro’ the member list and there doesn’t seem to be a direct correlation between number of posts and the “rank” thing. There may be a time element involved, but I dunno either. It’s not in the FAQ. There is something about referrals which I haven’t exactly understood either. You can of course edit the rank thing out and put your own message in its place.
Rob / Kansan
Thanks Rob,
The old grey cells seem to be going on strike more frequently these days – either I have too many books on the shelf to remember their titles :confused: or its an age thing…. ๐ฎ
Paul
Paul,
I know exactly where you’re coming from! I had to hunt through all kinds of tea-chests when MT719 was restored and see if there was a reference to the Spitfire 8’s in “GL-FP” but now for the life of me I don’t remember if there is a reference to the former pilot.(Don Healey?)
Speaking of the man himself, (Lacey) I read in a book (which I didn’t buy) that he refused to accept a consignment of low-back Spitfire 14’s for 17 squadron allegedly saying “That’s not a B—dy Spitfire” and thus 11 squadron converted from some clapped-out Hurricanes, much to their amazement. 17 got some high-back models later. Can someone confirm or deny this?
Rob / Kansan
L1547, the first production Hurricane, was lost over Merseyside on October 10, 1942 while serving with Nรถ 310 (Czech) Squadron.
Source: “The Hawker Hurricane” Francis K Mason page 42.
Knew I’d read it somewhere. Just don’t have it in my office where I’m currently supposed to be working! Thanks PL. What do the locals know about the alleged wreckage?
R/K
OT Hurricane in the Mersey
Speaking of Hurricanes in rivers, isn’t it the case that the first production Hurricane crashed in the Mersey while with 310 Squadron at Speke and the wreckage was/is still visible? Maybe this is all in NWAN but I’ve lost my ID and password. ๐ฎ
Rob / Kansan
Speaking as a Liverpolitan and an ex-employee of Standard Triumph (Coventry) I can tell you that it was only the bodies of the cars that were built in the Liverpool factory. This was built with the help of huge government grants well after the war, probably late 50s, early 60s to help Liverpool overcome its deprived status.
The bodies were then loaded on covered transporters and driven all the way to the Fletchamstead Highway site in Coventry to be assembled.
I used to ‘plane spot’ on Speke Boulevard whence the DC3s would pass directly over our heads. The Rootes factory was down the end, but I think it might have passed to Lockheed Hydraulics by then.
Moggy
Aha! Another Scouser out of the Merseyside closet. I had no idea, Moggy as your accent doesn’t show on your forum posts. ๐ This explains how your first flight was from Speke (in GD) and you made a knowing comment about someone nicking a JCB from Parkgate. (!)
I only lived there for 17 years – Mostly in the South End (Aigburth, Allerton) and also on the Wirral (West Kirby).
One of the people I worked with in L’pool (now sadly deceased) was a Triumph employee who told a wonderful story about a Dolomite which was being assembled for a co-worker who was retiring which allgedly had every top-of-the-range add-on feature put on it before they got caught.
So, time to buy a copy of the Phil Butler book. I should have bought a copy of the Burtonwood story too. Is there anything written about Hooton Park?
R/K
The Triumph factory site, now an Asda, had no connection with Rootes. See Phil Butler’s Liverpool Airport book history for details of several Rootes plants in the Speke area.
AT,
Oh yes, I have sufficient English blood still coursing through my hardened arteries to know that there is no connection between Standard Triumph and Rootes. What I never knew was what happened to the factory sites. You never bother to find out about places until you l eave them. (Happens to me all the time)
I should have done this when I lived over there! Alibris time again. ๐