GA. With respect, I would describe vengance as one person getting revenge on one who has done something untowards the one seeking the revenge.And is possibly a small niggling thing that eats away at the person seeking revenge.

Murder, whether premeditated or not, has denied a person a life, and the murderer should therefor give their life up.
Not going to get into religeon, but it does state, “An eye for an eye” etc

Lincoln .7

….as well as “turn the other cheek”…..

Looking back at Will Hay he does not seem as funny as when I first saw him. And, sorry, Ken Dodd does nothing for me at all. And the thought of sitting through 2, 3 and 4 hours of him – well, I’d rather have my finger nails drawn out….or did someone else get there first?:D

The one big advantage of the death penalty is of course…they cannot re-offend ! And as moggy posted – its much cheaper than life imprisonment !!

And certainly if they never offended in the first place.:( One miscarriage of justice is one too many and I had some dealings many years ago with the families of two wrongly hanged individuals. Nothing further to add but it is not a deterrent and never has been.

Who?:)

Very sad.:( A superb and underrated guitarist – was it Lemmy who said he had a face like a welders bench?

GA’s last comment is the key. What is justice? Justice is perceived to be many things by many people and the question of whether the punishment meted out for a crime is apt or not, is highly contentious. I do not happen to believe that the “ultimate sanction” is a deterrent, although I am ambivalent about corporal punishment. The problem is that much crime is petty but highly anti-social and the punishments barely worth the police’s trouble.

As GA says unless the punishment is viewed by the criminal as something he or she fears it serves no purpose.

As for crime statistics – there are as many versions of the statistics as there are crimes.

What we singularly fail to do here is to study the causes of crime and seek to address prevention rather than cure. Look at our family and social structures and our drug culture to find some of the answers.

I cannot answer your question other than to surmise that there are hundreds in the UK, which is my home territory. The Airfield Information Exchange here does a terrific job on old and abandoned airfields and airfield archaeology.

Don’t you believe it- there are a few on here even older than us!!!:diablo:And, of course, Sykes, Wisdom, Morecambe and Wise, Ronnies Barker and Corbett, Sellers…..it really is impossible to name a favourite of all. How about Al Read and Chic Murray? And Hancock?………………..