I apologise, I was tired last night and perhaps shouldn’t have posted anything which vented my frustration.
I would expect better of you.
My anger and frustration being the attitude that it should remain stored away from view together with the Hurricane rather than getting out and being displayed. Yes it would be nice to see the Mosquito fly, but equally it would be nice to see the Mosquito and Hurricane restored and put on show in a museum, then I would have the option of getting on an aircraft and going to see them. I also understand the argument that not everything can be displayed but if the Mosquito is such an important airframe to the Canadians then surely it must be important enough to be displayed.
Yak 11 Fan
In response to the question of the value of a Mosquito to Canada…
It’s not the issue of where it was built gentlemen or this specific airframe…but how it was used and what it represents in our history.
Some examples of why Mossies are important to Canada:
1) 418 City of Edmonton Squadron, Intruders, Highly decorated, huge
contributions to the effort in WW2.2) Russ Bannock, one time CO of 418 Sqn, once know as the
“Savior of London” for his talents in eliminating V1’s, also one of the
important Mosquito aces. Member of the Canadian Aviation Hall of Fame.3) Bob Boyden, Edmontonian, DFC with Bar, flying with the RAF! Took on
several missions where no expectation of survival was pointed out up front.I could go on but the Mossie is a very important piece of wartime history
in Canada. Many Canadians flying them with the RAF!Seems we are easy to forget in our contributions to the victories and the
losses sustained in WW2.4) Spartan Aerial Surveys, used the Mossie extensively in the
comprehensive mapping of Canada, especially Canada’s North. Completing
a massive task that had been attempted many times. helping make
possible the DEW line and the Pine Tree line.I could go on and on…but these examples start to point out the importance.
So yes Yak 11 Fan the Mossie is important to us.
Tom H
Yes thats all very well, but sadly didnt answer my question, I am not talking about the Mosquito in general, I am talking about this Mosquito???
Can anyone explain to me why this Mosquito is of such historical importance to Canada other than the fact it has been there for some time and was once used as a workhorse by a commercial organisation?
Even if the Hurricane were to come back ‘restored’ the most likely outcome would be that it would be stripped of all of its flyable parts in the process and have them replaced with nicely painted garbage parts from some wreck recovered from the Russian tundra. Lets not let that happen either.
Statements like this really annoy me, where is the proof to back it up???
On a related note if during the restoration an original part is found so corroded or damaged that it has to be replaced are you guys going to moan and gripe about that??? How about nailing down a clear restoration contract specifying what happens to all the parts that need replacing??? Surely that would be more constructive than all this whinging and moaning.
Most likely the Lancaster now at Duxford.
* that will be £175 plus VAT. Ta.
Is that all???? looks like we will need to review our charge out rates here then…..:D
Seems a shame that the poor old aircraft has to sit unloved in the corner of a warehouse rather than it being sold to somebody who is prepared to restore it.
Surely its all very well to have a Cultural Property Legislation, but unless that actually provides some resource to ensure the objects continued survival/preservation then its a total waste of time. Is this warehouse open to the public so as enthusiasts can view the aircraft in its unrestored state? If not then surely its heritage is only important to a handful of people?
Whilst yes I live in the UK and if it comes here I may have a chance to see it fly I wouldn’t really be too bothered whether it was restored here or anywhere else, the important thing to me is that its restored and not left in a warehouse, after all if it were restored and either flown at an airshow or on static display in a museum I could always save some money and jump on a flight to wherever it may be and take a look.
I’m struggling here to see why this aircraft is so important to Canada if it wasn’t built there, didn’t serve there, but was used for photo mapping of North and South America, the only link I can work out is that it has been there for a long time (mostly out of sight).
I agree with SeaDog that its a pretty poor show to advertise something, get the deal a long way towards completion then pull the plug only then to attempt to sell it to someone else a few years later without first offering it to the original buyer.
don’t know why the de Haviland museum can’t sell one of theirs, myself
Maybe they dont want to.
Is this the same Mosquito that was advertised for sale a couple of years ago and had the plug pulled at a late stage in the negotiating process?
Lavenham was pretty complete until the concrete crushers went in during the early 90’s, Halesworth looks fairly complete from the air and now that Bernard Matthews is pulling out of the place maybe it will come on to the market. Tibenham has 3 good runways but lost a lot of peri track a while ago.
Mine would be a Yak-11
(In fact, the former G-AYAK airframe to be precise).
If i could get Kermit Weeks at Fantasy Of Flight to part with it. I’d have it shipped back to P.P.S. at Booker for another total rebuild.
I’ve just loved this particular aircraft since the mid-70’s when I first saw it being flown by Neil Williams. Both pilot and aircraft made an enourmous impression. Later, in the early 80’s I was fortunate to fly in it on several occasions from Duxford with Anthony Hutton.
Just waiting for my 6 numbers to come up….
Out… Roxeth.
Good man, fine aircraft, you may not have a massive problem in getting him to part with it however (the pictures in the link may make you weep however) http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/N11YK%20and%20Project%20Spec.htm
Personally I would start with a Stearman, a Yak 11, a Mustang, a Bearcat, a Corsair and a Thunderbolt. That should keep me busy….
I think both the Spitfire and Hurricane are both plastic replicas.
There would be far fewer aircraft around for us all to talk about if we allow them to rot into the ground rather than restore them. OK so i the steel tube has corroded then it needs replacing, however the stainless plates and tube end fittings are likely to be used again and in the case of R4118 I was under the impression that the majority of the systems were rebuilt and were used again, as was a great deal of the engine. Surely this must constitute a large part of the 60% figure.
So the real question is should Mr Vacher have gone to all the trouble and expense of recovering and restoring a very nice Hurricane which we can all enjoy watching during the summer months or left it in its compound in India to continue to deteriorate to the point where the only memory is the 1982 snapshot he took and put in an album. I know where my vote lies thank you.
Sadly not, but I am very pleased that the chap driving it at the time wasnt badly injured. I enjoyed flying that machine, even if it did suffer a tailwheel puncture on my first landing on tarmac.