If you can only detect a LO at 35km, you don’t need a radar that can see out there past the sun. I understand that the 35 is the pinnacle of the Flanker family, but that “sale” still does not make much sense if seen through what we are told.
It makes tons of sense. You just hate how it brings some prestige upon the SU 35.
Why is this qualified as being stealth?
Also more a mustache than a canard. Could be retractable.
Lol the ink isn’t even dried on the document of understanding to build a stealth aircraft and we already have people questioning the stealth of said currently non existent aircraft.
Russia got more contracts this time.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-emirates-idex-deals-idUKKBN15Z1H2
http://www.thenational.ae/business/economy/idex-2017-uae-and-russia-to-develop-fighter-jet
“The fifth generation aircraft that is set to be developed with the UAE is expected to be a variation of the MiG-29 fighter jet.”
Yesssss. We might see a stealth Mig 29. Dream come true
Longer range (+150 nm combat radius). Internal carriage of anti-ship/anti-radiation missiles. E-2 support.
With the Delta Flight Path, carrier landings have been greatly simplified as well.
F-35’s New Landing Technology May Simplify Carrier Operations
But the better technology has also made SVTOL landings and takeoff simpler
Uhmm…I would pretty much think everything above is other way around. F-35B is more complicated, spares cost more, has less performance, smaller load etc. As for pilot training and cat/trap qualifications, is it really much different? It’s not like STOVL operations don’t require specialized training.
With hindsight, they should have waited for few years, buy EMALS from USA and build CATOBAR from the start.
Not true. The USSR also opted for STOVL over CATOBAR for operational and capital cost savings.
sure it can MoonCat,
it will probably be more or less, stealth airframe with MiG-35 guts. Similar to how Turkish TFX will end up being a stealth airframe with EF Typhoid Guts
the UAE peeps need something stealth to penetrate Iran’s defenses and F-35 seems to be off the table (but why they don’t want the Pak-fa or Chinese lockmart clones is beyond me).
So this route is the lowest riskat least we know if MiG is designing it, it won’t look hyperboring like most of the 5th gen aircraft out there
I am assuming that Iran will buy Pak Fa’s eventually. Or maybe FC 31’s. I just don’t see how Russia or China can get away with arming both sides.
1 feature does not make an aircraft. The J 10 is Chinas 1st modern domestic entry. China is not an aviation power. It’s talents lie elsewhere. How could the J10 be better than aircraft from legacy air powers like the US China, and to a lesser extent France and Sweden ?
Can you more clearly explain why you think it’s stupid ?
Pierre Sprey believes the Rus can see em
It’s the only one with TVC so by default..
Am I the only one who noticed that the OP put the J10 at #1 ? The J 10??
No i don’t. As usual you are trying to push your misunderstanding as fact. In this case it is even worse because anyone who can speak/listen English properly can see that you are wrong. The video even have caption. If you can’t understand to what he said then at least turn it on.
Alright, open the video on full screen, turn on the caption. Between 5:56 and 6:25 , he literally said F-15 with wing tank dominate clean Su-30. No one sneak anything in. It is just you either having very poor English ( which is acceptable, but turn on the caption next time) or trying to troll.
I talked about fuel tank and pilots because that is literally what he talked about in the video. You are just embarrassing yourself now
Alright, open the video on full screen, turn on the caption. Between 5:56 and 6:25 , he literally said F-15 with wing tank dominate clean Su-30.
I said that the col was comparing the su 30 to the Raptor. You replied by making it look like, to someone who didn’t watch the video, that I posted the wrong video or something because you made it look like the F 15 vs the su 30 was the central topic of the video. When clearly it wasn’t.
The subsequent obscurantism that the col went on to say about fuel tanks, F 15’s, pilots and tactics does not take away the main point and reason why I posted the video. Which is, that the USAF col said that an su 30 can do anything that a Raptor can do at an airshow. (Indian pilot in a su 30. Not Russian pilot in an su 35)
I don’t want to be mean but both you and OP really need to learn English properly
The general said when US does those exercise with India in the past, they only sent their operational pilot with not alot of experience while India often sent their best. So India was able to win more time in close combat. However, when they used pilots with similar experience level, US side was able to dominate with F-15 carrying fuel tank while Su-30 is in clean configuration ( not that i buy what he said but if you think this video even remotely close to support your point then ……well i have no word “.
He did talk about an inexperience Raptor pilot being in trouble in close combat, but it is not against Su-30 but rather against F-15/F-16 in their own exercrise , he even mentioned that how they developed tactics against TVC opponents
You dress up your partisan bickering as a language error to make other ppl look bad. Then you sneak in a reference about the F 15 when you know that the guy is comparing the F 22 to the su 30. Not the F 15.
The USAF Col. in the video get into detail, with hand gestures and a video reference about su 30 vs Raptor.
We have a USAF col on the record saying that the export version su 30 (not 35) can do anything that the Raptor (not F 15) at an airshow yet we are questioning what aircraft is the best 4.5 gen ?
And I know airshows are not everything. But it still speaks volumes of the su 30 and 35.
But then garryA goes on about fuel tanks, better pilots and tactics blah blah blah. Better pilots ? Ok. The de-rated su 30 was dancing with the Raptor. If you want to talk better pilots, how about we take Russia’s best pilots in their su 35’s and compare. How about that ?
Please…… His entire premise is wrong from the start. The F-22 may have issues with software upgrades, premature fatigue stress on tails, and inlet ramp damage, but people seem to forget that early blocks weren’t even supposed to be serving as combat coded aircraft in 2017. The commonly repeated myth that F-22 production was discontinued due to: “design faults”, “too expensive” are repeated on this forum often without any supporting documentation or reports. The last proposed production block had a procurement cost below 150 million in TY$.
Those comments just don’t correspond with the actual reasons stated by Gates, JCS, or Congress. The F-22 was cut, quite simply because Gates prioritized weapons that could be used in Iraq and Afghanistan, Congress and the President sustained him. Gates stated that 187 F-22’s would suffice to meet any threat then foreseen (and history has shown his foresight to be flawed).
Agree to disagree then.
I think the reason that Gates gave is the BS answer and the expense of the aircraft is the truth. You think the exact opposite.
McDs for the Navy or USAF/USMC?
at this rate the USMC version might as well be completely different from the USAF version too.
Still looks fat with small wings as Pierre Sprey would say