US ready to supply UAV ScanEagle to Pakistan: official

By Sajjad Malik

ISLAMABAD: The US is ready to provide the unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) ScanEagle to Pakistan to improve its reconnaissance capacity, US Under Secretary of Defence Michele Flournoy said on Tuesday.

Flournoy was talking to reporters at the end of her two-day visit to Pakistan.

The under secretary’s comments came ahead of an offer by US Defence Secretary Robert Gates, who earlier announced to provide the UAV Shadow, drawing criticism from local media who said the technology was obsolete.

Flournoy said the US wanted to build a strategic partnership with Pakistan and discussed ways to develop new relations. She said the US was offering support to Pakistan in various sectors to help it overcome its problems.

She acknowledged the existence of a trust deficit between the two countries, but hoped the two sides would succeed in bridging gaps by working closely.

“Our action will
speak louder than words
and by helping Pakistan
and its people, we will be able to overcome the anti-American sentiments here. But it will take some time,” she added.

The under secretary said the US was providing F-16 aircraft to Pakistan and had set up the Counterinsurgency Capacity Building Fund worth $1 billion for the country. She said the US had also provided over $7 billion from the Coalition Support Fund to the country since the war on terror began in 2001.

She said the release of more aid under the fund had been delayed owing to delay in issuance of visas to the US embassy staff, adding that the funds would be provided once this issue was resolved.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010/02/17/story_17-2-2010_pg7_4

Rahul, it is a real shame that threads are derailed the way they are. The last 8 posts have been nothing but insults being hurled, there is no valid contribution. Notice how few posters even bother contributing for fear of being dragged into a war of words like the above. You dont even have non-Indian posters to blame this time.

These threads could be great, but never fufill there potential, even people who have small disagreements get a mass of personal bile thrown their way, like you just did with me in the above post.

Dont worry, am out of here and will let this thread run its usual course…

Not to state the obvious, but surely an Israeli attack on Greece is an attack on NATO?

Does anyone have any good info – stories & images of the Afghanistan Defections during the Soviet-Rule 1979 – 1990?

Here ya go!

Afghan AN-26 Curl and MIG-21bis that defected to Pakistan

Also Indian Gnat intact. Although technically not defection as pilot was not inlined towards landing in Pakistan!

http://www.pakdef.info/pakmilitary/airforce/warbirds/fandb_gallery.html

Is anyone going to answer HME, I wonder?

I’m interested in this, too.

I have:

6 x Chengdu F-7PG, Squadron and base unknown.

I think they were probably from 23 Sqn Talons, 31 Wing, Samungli Quetta, but they could equally have been from 17 Sqn Tigers, 31 Wing, Samungli Quetta or 20 Sqn Eagles, 34 Wing, Rafiqi Shorkot.

Can anyone confirm?

And what squadron were the Jordanian F-16s from?

From the very faint image below the flag, and this is a complete guess, I would say it is actually CCS. The badge does not look like any of the Sqds you mentioned, and from what little I can make out, it seems like a raised white sword, which is CCS badge.

This thread has gone waaaay off topic!

Rimmer, please don’t start playing your games if you are really interested in keeping this thread going well. Pakistani military is not the army of the prophet. Your generals are not the defenders of islam, merely of Pakistan. We have more muslims in india and large numbers serving in our military ready to take on pakistan in case of a war. So stop trying to twist a discussion on pak army into something anti-islam. That is a typical troll tactic.

Pakistan’s foreign policy has been under military control since the beginning. Its decisions and actions are _not_ under civilian control, unlike india where hindu, christian or islamic fundamentalists in the indian army cannot even pee without our elected officials allowing them to. General Sunderji was removed for operation brasstracks, but Musharaff became president after Kargil.

So it is very much a military issue for india to understand the motivations and thoughts of the pak military establishment. There has been internal purges in Pak military recently to get rid of senior officers sympathetic to taliban. Pak nukes falling into jihadi hands is a very real possibility, which your own heads of state often discuss in public. Its not something I made up. In case that happens, guess who is first in the firing line ?

You really think rise of islamicists is not a military issue for india and the rest of the world ? Why is USA in Afghanistan and flying drones in pak territory ?

It may be a distasteful topic for a patriotic pak citizen to face, but for an indian its a reality we have to every day plan and guard against. Rise of islamicists to power is probably the only military issue for india w.r.t pakistan as the ability of pak to capture indian territory (kashmir or elsewhere) is non existent and india has no territorial ambitions on pak.

IN any case, my reply was to Vikas saying wiping out PAF is a nuclear threshold for Pak, and I wanted to argue that if its hand is forced, India won’t consider that as a red line and would instead see loss of power by current establishment to likes of taliban as the real nuclear threshold. Its difficult not to mention islamicists when that is the key to all military action in and around Pak today.

Shocked and amazed we are allowing these posts on the forum, and this guy to continue posting.

Can we PLEASE take it easy on the Islamaphobia on someposts?

We could post talking of Hnud fundementalists in the Indian military, but we choose not too. Its way out of scope of a PAF thread, and also, actually quite boring.

Why is it certain posters from a certain country almost always bring a religious angle into these things?

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