To continue the story….
Also at Miek Subritzky’s we’d caught up with Marcus Bridle, who is a forum member on WIX (Hairy). He’d already tried to catch us at Motat as planned but since the guys had already gone the day before the plans had changed, Marcus had missed us. He’d gone to the Subritzky’s without even knowing we were going to turn up, so another fortuitous turn.
After the jaunt to Dairy Flat we made our return south to Auckland and into towen for a knees up. Marcus joiend us and we proceeded to the London Bar as planned. We stayed a little while but the band got loud and also I was disappointed that the place had slipped a little since I’d last been there (it used to have loads of world beers from Britian, Europe, USA, India, etc. now is was just dull same old same old).
So we moved on to track down dinner and we ended up in a Japanese restaurant where we enjoyed a good meal and a chef at the table throwing food at us. I’d only seen this on tele before so to experience it first hand was a novelty.
After a hearty meal and a few beers we decided to go to the Sky Tower, the tallest building in the southern hemisphere, but when we arrived we found the bar at the top was closing so we didn’t bother going up. Well, not worth the effort if there’s no beer, eh?
That was Saturday shot, onto Sunday.
We set off south for Ardmore Airport, heart of the NZ Warbirds and many restoration facilities. We actually found the place fairly easily despite me giving a few wrong turns in the navigation. There we had breakfast in the cafe at the Aero Club building. Highly recommended if you go there, very good food.
At 11am we were off to Pioneer Aero where we again met Marcus, and we met Paul McSweeney, one of the managers there. He kindly gave us some history of the business and the aircraft they’ve restored, and this included a lot of facts even us Kiwis were unaware of. Then Paul showed us through the hangar, where currently resident are two P40’s being restored, a Yak 3 and a P51D. Wow, what a smashing place, just wonderful. And Paul was a very hospitable host making us most welcome and answering many questions. They’re a very dedicated team, that is for sure.
Soon a funny turbo noise outside heralded the arrival of a bright red Pilatus PC6 Turbo Porter, which has just returned to the air thanks to the Ardmore technicians. We adjourned to take a look and meet the pilot. Soon another arrival was Mr Garth Hogan himself, owner of Pioneer, who’d come to meet and welcome us. What a great bunch of guys.
Eventually we reluctantly left this wonderful facility to venture to the other side of the airfield and take a look at the NZ Warbirds Hangar’s stablemates. We spent several hours and all got considerably sunburnt from then on, looking, chatting, watching, living and breathing warbirds. Harvards, Mustang, Trojan, Catalina, CT4B’s… and we were treated to several Harvards in the air, several flights from the Trojan to watch, the Catalina doing a club flight, and much more buzzing around. But the highlight for Steve, and for us, was the sudden arrival of an L39. A new one, up from New Plymouth, piloted by none other than Peter Voss who was old buddies with Steve as they’d trained on the L39 together in the USA. Peter’s new-to-NZ L39 looked great to me, and it was really impressive to see take off, man they’re quiet compared with other military jets that I’m more used to.
Eventually we dragged ourselves away from Ardmore and did finally make it to Glyn Powell’s, where he kindly showed us through the Mossie factory. We were all impressed by his first Mossie fuselage which is still in his workshop, and not in Canada as previously reported. He’s a man with a lot of drive and vision, and we all hope he achieves his goals of putting a few Mossies back in the air.
That concluded another great day, and shortly afterwards I had to head for home.
I hope to add some photos to this tomorrow when I get them off the camrea, because the photos will speak a thousand more volumes than my mere words can.
In closing I want to thank all the collectors, restorers and enthusiats across the Auckland district who made this weekend such a joy for me and for our visiting friends. The terrible two head south to Christchurch and then Wanaka tomorrow, and I hope (and know) they have’ll have as much fun and as much welcomes as the past weekend.
Cheers.
I don’t know, but I’d be keen to see the other picture you mentioned. Perhaps it is. Where did it crash, and when was it shot down. I might be able to correlate it to Norm’s service in the islands. It’s quite a large tyre on the right of photo by the looks.
Wonderful photos, thanks Stewart and Gary. Well done.
So is April 11th the first flight?
Or is that when it gets strung up?
B17man – as they are hosted off-site by some other web photo host (due to the photo posting crisis) your firewall or some other security software is probably not allowing them to load. I had this problem a while back when I had installed a brilliant security programme called Secretmaker (which was free and stopped all the security problems the expensive ones don’t!) but I had to uninstall is because it blocked hosted photos here, at Wix, on ebay, trademe and other places. Pity.
Thanks for the follow-up Janie.
Hi Panther,
Yes, the IAC sounds like it is indeed sufffering the same symptoms. The strange thing is the NZ Navy and Army are getting loads of funding, and the Navy has just been awarded eight new ships. Yet the Air Force, which lets face it in both modern warfare and day to day work is by far the most important military arm, is being screwed.
The Museums you mention are great. I haven’t been to the Ohakea one you mention since I was based there in 1993. Do they still have a C47 there? I couldn’t see it when I drove past last year. It used to stand guard out the front bu the main road.
Thankfully the RNZAF Museum at Wigram has dropped that crappy corporate title “Air Force World” that it somehow gained in the 1990’s – it made it sound like a theme park.
As an aside, I’d like to compliment the many international users of this forum. We have many for whom English is not their first language and, in my opinion, their written English is exceptional.
I agree with that. The major difficulty I have sometimes is understanding some who should be able to speak plain English as a first language… Crazymainer… Stewrat1A… Anna…. ??? 😀
The question is – did Glen Miller fly on instruments?
Think about it.
😀 😀 Very good indeed
Like everyone else here I guess (hope) I don’t think I’d ever want to experience the horror side of combat that the thousands of airmen experienced, especially in bombers over Europe. However the adventure side would be wonderful to feel for myself having read and heard so many first hand accounts.
If I had to actually chose a mission, I’d like to experience what it was like as a crew member of an RNZAF Lockheed Hudson, flying a lone patrol as they did, perhaps up ‘The Slot’, hunting and attacking shipping and subs, and fighting off the marauding Zeros. And I’d want the crew to consist of my best mates that I have in reality now.
I have read much about these missions and I have a great admiration for the crews who in these General Reconnaissance (GR) squadrons whose work varied from Coastal Command style anti-shipping ops to land-target bombing missions like Bomber Command, to acting as navigation ‘mother hen’ to fighters or single engined bombers, to search and rescue to photographic work, etc. A real variety of roles.
I also I have a great love for both the Hudson and the Ventura that were used in the GR and Bomber Reconnaissance roles. To me they hold a lot of adventure as well as history, good and bad.
I am currently reading James Sanders’ excellent book ‘A Long Patrol’ about No. 1 Sqn RNZAF and have gotten to the Hudson era. It’s a really interesting period. Another brilliant book that covers these missions is Wings Over The Pacific by the late Alex Horn. And I also admire the work of Errol Braithwaite, both his fiction and factual accounts based on his time as an air gunner in Venturas performing the same role.
Ultimately I’d love to make a dramatised TV mini-series or film about what these men and machines did on their missions. I’d love to do that.
“It’s a mother lovin’ BEAUTIFUL movie…..and it’s GONNA be at the video store….”
Mark
Well, it ain’t at my video store no more. I got my copy and several other great war films and classics (Hitchcock, Kubrick, etc) in a sale at the video store last week where they were throwing out loads of tapes that no longer rent. It’s good when my little sister is the manager there because she puts all the war films and other good ones aside for me.
I got 15 films for $20. Can’t complain really.
One I got was Kubrick’s Paths of Glory – one I’d never heard of. Very powerful film. About the French army in WWI. Highly recommended.
When I started this thread I honestly had no idea there was such a cult folowing for this film. I hadn’t seen it since I was about 12 and had forgotten all about it. I’m, glad the thread has given you all a lot of pleasure.
Sorry, not from me. I don’t recall ever seeing the Corsair. I think it was whipped ourt and off to the USA before I ever went there. When did it leave? I think I was about 7 when I first went there, eg 1977-78ish.
Anyone else got Motat photos of the olden days? I dare say a few will be added after the weekend I hope.
Thnak you chaps. Sad news there.
Cheers anyway. At least they got a lot of use postwar unlike most of our other frontline aircraft. Good luck with that BOAC airframe David.
Dave
There is an excellent story of how Gremlins attacked a Sunderland on a night flight here at this month’s “Short Bursts” – the magazine of the Ex-Air Gunners Association. It is quite a good true story. It includes some natty pictures of the Filthy Wee Folk too.
http://www.airmuseum.ca/mag/
Here is another shot I have found. I took this at Wigram in probably 1993. From memory the pilots were Keith Skilling (Corsair) and the late Tom Middleton (P40K), and on the tarmac are RNZAF and AFC pilot F/Lt Phil Murray in civvies, and RNZAF Museum F/Sgt Alan Woodley. This for some reason is one of my favoutite photos of those I’ve taken over the years, I guess because of the great memories attavhed.

Yes, the Devon was at Woodbourne, one of six they had there then.
I meant the things John thought were mountains in the Ardmore piccies were less than what we’d call hills compared with our ‘real’ mountains, ala Wanaka and all points south. I think the photos may be deceptive, they are not mountains.