Dave H U must have some real good fuel in NZ we brits have only a six yes 6 metre zone arround aircraft wilst fueling is in progess (15m no smoking) C.A.P.75 REFERS (as on licenced airfields smoking is not perrmited,it is not an issue)
Perhaps it is because of our clearer, warmer air here? But then, the RNZAF never took safety by halves, in fact they always went in for overkill on safety issues, which in my opinion is the only policy one should adhere to. 🙂
What about Transport Command?
Great story Mark, but did the insurance pay out?? Haha
John, sorry mate, I was not actually trying to say the CAF was started by wackos, just merely poining out a possible reason for what was said in that documentary. I don’t think Migs would have had much trouble from WWII fighters, but the USSR’s pistone engined bombers might have, and their ground troops if a ‘Red Dawn’ situation had occurred.
I take your point that the media can make something seem a lot more than it seems when you’re actually there. That happens everywhere in the world. But there’s no smoke without fire, as they say.There must have been something in what was said.
Anyway, this is all irrelevent to the thread about the Bearcat so let’s let them get the thread back on track.
What was the Eagle Lancaster/Lincoln? Were they USAF owned too?
Thanks Mark, stunning photo.
Who owned it then? And what are the colours? The ‘grey’ looks very light compared with the Hurricane.
Cheers
Dave
Ah, that’s right. I was getting confused there. Personally I think a Hind flight (or two?)will be much more exciting, yey!
We might have to paste some labels onto Lion Red for him Dave. haha
The only fatal airshow crash I know of here in New Zealand was when Ian Reynolds was killed in his Chipmunk at Wanaka in 1994.
I know John Greenstreet was killed in the Harvard in the Roaring 40’s practice the day before the Ardmore Airshow in 1990 (?) but I don’t know of any others that were not simply minor prangs and spills in this country. I’d be interested to hear if there were any fatal airshow accidents before these ones.
No, that is stock footage of a Hurricane. The episode is “The Day The Balloon Went Up”. I am talking about the 1971 Columbia Pictures big screen version, not BBC.
Two other aircraft are seen in the series from memory. One is the Heinkel in the film, and also in the episode ‘Come In, Your Time Is Up’ an aircraft is seen too. It looks like a Britten Norman Islander from memory but represents a Dornier 17 or similar.
Some may be interested that they used former RAF Watton in the episode “Round and Round Went The Great Big Wheel” and a lot of other famous wartime East Anglian locations crop up in the series too. Plus after hours the cast would sometimes go off to Mildenhall or the other USAF base near Theford for a night out.
Dad’s Army does indeed wear well, although the film is a bit naff because it was made by Americans and an Irish director who hadn’t much of a clue what the show was about. Incidentally, I run the Dad’s Army Apprciation Society New Zealand Branch!!
I don’t have the film on DVD I’m afraid, but in the sequence the men are on their way to their exercise in the van with the gas bag on the roof. Some of them including Mainwaring are cycling ahead of the van. They see the Spitfire and Mainwaring calls for the famous van rifle drill “Open-two-three, up-two-three, bang-two-three” but not only is it not a Stuka, Jones has his bayonet attached and pops the gas bag. Since the van has no gas, they are late and miss supper.
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I guess if Mark12 doesn’t know, no-one will.
I think you might be right there actually Daz. It was a hashed about something-or-rather now that I think about it. I think it was mentioned in a Flypast article about the film several years ago.
Hi guys,
I have been discussing Steve’s trip with him for several weeks and have a few things arranged. Should be great. I don’t think there are any airshows while he’s here (not according to Classic Wings and the NZ Warbirds site anyway) but we hope to take him to a few museums around the Auckland region, and Don he’s tentatively thinking of heading through Wellington too. Maybe you should PM him.
Cheers
Dave
My guess is either the BBC writer was trying to add a bit of “Colour” to the story (admit it…how many times have you seen an English writer come to the US “In search of America” only to write about the weirdest, most colorful, Jerry Springer-type people he could find?) …or the CAF guys were having a leg pull and the writer believed it. After living in West Texas, I know those “good ol’ boys” do have a very dry sense of humour. 🙂
Well John. it has been a long time since I saw the documentary, but I watched it several times back then and my recollection is that it was actually the members themselves saying it directly during an interview – I doubt they were given a script to read by some British writer. That would be just silly. Maybe they were saying it tongue-in-cheek, I cannot recall, but my memory recalls that they were pretty serous. I hope someone here has that programme on video and can clarify my faded memories of about 15 years ago. I am happy to be corrected.
Now those Texas boys weren’t so stupid to believe that a P-51 and P-38 were going too keep America from being invaded when the entire Air Defense and Tactical Air Commands (with their countless F-102s, 104s, and Phantoms) had failed. 🙂
Why not? As you well know there are a lot of militia groups even today in the USA who don’t believe the country’s defences are adequate. Most of them are nuts who build bunkers and have more weaponry than the military, and are more dangerous than the supposed enemy. So why could a similar mentailty not apply to warbirds owners who were WWII and Korea vets and were scared witless by the endless US propaganda that the Commies were coming? It is not beyond the realms of reality, is it?