Thanks Rob, much obliged. I look forward to seeing anything you find.
Sally B was in her natural metal scheme when she also starred in an episode of It Ain’t Half hot Mum. I prefer the olive drab on a B17 myself
What was the result of the aircraft in the hangar that was blown up for Tora, Tora, Tora? They ‘flew’ a Zero replica into the genuine hangar and blew the lot up. Wasn’t there a Privateer or something similar inside?
Other movie abuses – former RNZAF WWII veteran C47 Dakota NZ3518 being sunk into a lake for the film “Race For The Yankee Zephyr”. Once the film was complete they then beached it and broke up the airframe. What a waste!
I recall an ex-RNZAF Hudson had a similar role in a 1970’s NZ television series (I think it was called The Sea Urchins and was Kiwi actress Rebecca Gibney’s first role). The hulk of the Hudson was submerged in the sea. I think that this was the one that later went to the RNZAF Museum for a second airframe to help restore NZ2013. So it had a happier ending.
Thanks Paul, I’ll look further into these incidents.
What’s the radial engined aircraft between the Dauntless and the Spit? Is it Japanese?
Thanks Rob. Have you a loss register for the US Marine Corsairs at all?
I have been through Errol Martyn’s ‘For Your Tomorrow’ and tried to see if it was an RNZAF pilot that was killed but nothing tallies up. One incident I did see was a local was given a medal for pullign a pilot out of a wreck, but the pilot later died. I know Dad said that his father also helped pull a chap from a Corsair once but I don’t know if it is the same occasion. Dad said he often saw Corsairs tipping onto their nose whilst landing, and he said they were usually American ones (I guess they were used to arrestor lines or something). He said several Corsairs crashed in their paddocks, and the tenders and crane would be there instantly, and the wreck would be gone within minutes it seemed. But it was only the one where the chap’s hands were severed that he says definately died. I guess most of the others were non-fatal so they wouldn’t be in For Your Tomorrow if he was RNZAF. Dad says he remembers pickinging up the chap’s hand and it was moving. Something a kid never forgets!
It is possible that this crash may have occurred after the war I guess, but more likely near the end of the war. They moved to Cambridge in the early 1950’s.
Does anyone have photos of US aircraft in New Zealand during the war? I’d be interested in seeing whatever type. I have only seen photos of the B17 that crashed at Whenupai, and the B17 (was it Swoose Goose?) that is still extant that spent time in NZ.
Thanks for the report Jagan. I’m glad to hear that you personally are ok too.
Thanks Mark. Interesting pictures. It is good to see that, if even just briefly, it wore its real RNZAF scheme, or a close approximation to it. I wonder if they’d ever consider returning it to that scheme again now that it flies.
I guess referring to footage often repeated, it all comes down to costs. Some archives housing rarer film stock will charge an arm and a leg for their stock footage. A lot of doco makers will go for the cheapest option I’m afraid, which is usually the piece of stock footage seen over and over.
An example of ridiculous costs, I read that for any news maker or documentary maker wishing to use the footage that TVNZ took of the Americas Cup races within NZ a few years back it will cost $200 per second. If an archive thinks they have something rare and usable, they sometimes feel they can charge like a raging bull for the privilege of using it.
Also, does anyone know which US Navy and US Marine carriers visited New Zealand during the war? I cannot find anything on Google, it’s all filled with current conflicts and nothing relating to WWII and the US forces in NZ.
Greg, the WWI tank is a brilliant replica. Firbreglass, but you cannot tell by looking even close. It is apparently based on a bulldozer, and man when the guns go off they are awesome. They brought it up to Cambridge last year for Armistice Day, and it fired its guns next to a real Stuart tank firing its own. It made the Stewart look like a pip-squeak! The tank was built by Peter Jackson’s workshops.
Wow, there seem to be a lot of fatal airshow crashes in Britain, and over the past few years a load of top pilots have been lost too. Very sad. Terribly sad.
Was that Biggin Hill Vampire crash mentioned here the one where Sir Kenneth Hayr was killed? That was big news here as he was a Kiwi legend. I never heard about the P63 the next day though. What was the third incident you mention Stewart? Did something else crash too?
Well one you mention, Hellzapoppin, seems to have been used on many aircraft. I don’t know if the name comes directly from the film of that title
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033704/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9SGVsemFwb3BwaW58aHRtbD0xfG5tPW9u;fc=1;ft=2;fm=1
Here in New Zealand there were a few double ups on names. The RNZAF’s first Dakota (NZ3501) was dubbed ‘Popeye’ with noseart of the character after the No. 40 Sqn commander Fred “Popeye” Lucas. Lucas got the nickname because he looked just like Popeye. Funnily enough he’d previously flown ‘Wimpys’ in No. 75 (NZ) Sqn. Anyway, I have a photo of another C47 in the same squadron called “Popeye III” with similar noseart, so I assume there was probably also a “Popeye II” and maybe others.
Also, a series of RNZAF P40’s were named ‘Gloria Lyons’. The first one was dubbed this because two members of No. 4 Servicing Unit, RNZAF, based at Ondonga, struck up a penpal called Gloria Lyons from Christchurch. She was a TB patient. 4SU adopted her as their mascot and P40 NZ3148 ‘G’ was soon emblazened with her name. The aircraft was lost so the name was then painted onto P40 NZ3188. Two weeks later the second one was lost, so NZ3220 became the third “Gloria Lyons”. This aircraft still exists in the John Smith collection at Mapua. After it returned to NZ a Corsair, NZ5233, got the name, but it too was lost. Each in turn did not receive a number, like the Popeyes did, they were simply known as “Gloria Lyons.”
I’m sure there are loads of examples of doubled up names, especially after cartoons and films, etc.
The second P-51 is ‘Dove of Peace’ , in the same issue you have just been reading about the Wallace.
Dave
Crikey, how the heck did I miss that. 😮 :confused: 😀 I’ve almost read that issue cover to cover!! Thanks Dave. Reading the article now.
Thanks everyone. Those are both interesting photos. That one of it crashing is chilling.