Mark12 – if there were stumps on the pitch at the time of the crash, was there a game actually taking place? Yikes! Can imagine that one, the bowler yelling Howzat as the batsman runs for his life! 🙂
Also – was it the BBMF who swapped the Mk XVI for a P51D? If so, why? Or was there an intermediate owner between? And what became of the Mustang?
It does not come up on Pathe’s site search – I had already tried that – but as the site only displays short clips and has only 3500 hours of footage from over a century of their operation, logic tells me that not their entire vaults collection happens to be online.
I’m sure some company will have filmed the airshow, there’s lots of early Farnborough airshow footage about (certainly 1952 when John Derry was killed in the de Havilland 110). It doesn’t mean I can instantly find it on a website.
Glad you put us out of our miseries. My best guess was:
1 – A very large Meccano set
2 – The prototype London Bus
3 – A Sycamore or similar helicopter that had flown into a bridge
😉 😉 😉
I never saw the earlier thread, but TB863 was one of a squadron of MkXVI Spitfires that were painted up to represent a squadron of Bf109’s and used to battle a Sqn of Mosquitoes at the 1950 Farnborough airshow, in a re-enactment of the Amiens raid. At least one photo of the Spit in those colours was published in New Zealand Wings Magazine in the early 1990’s. Also a friend of mine was actually at the show and said the display was awesome.
I wonder if the Pathe or Movietone cameras or equivalent caught this mock attack on film?
Yes there is a National Film Archive of India. See their website here:
http://www.nfaipune.nic.in/main_page.htm
They would undoubtedly be the people to approach about this, as they’ll have all the expertise, gear and budget to handle the job.
I know that some significant wartime British films were recently discovered in their vaults, having been thought lost for over fifty years.
Good luck
Mike J, when you say ‘it’s demise’, what happened to it? Did it crash (sink?) or was it cancelled?
I think it’ an awesome idea. Someone really needs to persue it commercially.
Jagan,
Just a thought but if you want some more expert advice, I would suggest you post a message to the forum on this site http://www.restoration-team.co.uk/
They are the team that has been transferring and restoring all the old BBC films to digital format (not just Doctor Who shows as the team’s name suggest). They are Britain’s experts and are always helpful with advice. They’ll no doubt be able to come up with the name of somone in your area who can assist. I hope this helps.
Err,,, Captain Mainwaring voice….
“Well done, I wondered who’d be the first to spot that!” 🙂
OK – what colour is this Yale then?
481 victories for the P-40 seems low to me too. The AVG “Flying Tigers” shot down 286 Japanese aircraft with their P-40s which would only leave 195 victories for all of the rest of the Kittyhawk and Warhawk pilots that flew with all of the Allied countries IF this number includes the AVG.
Dennis
The RNZAF scored 100 victories with the P40 in the Pacific (plus at least two ‘own goal’ shoot downs of other RNZAF P40’s in training!).
There must have been many more victories scored by the Australians in the Pacific too, and also the RAF, RAAF and RSAF in the Western Desert. Then there were P40’s in the European campaign too. And didn’t the Dutch fly them in the Pacific also?
That figure must be for one particular Mk of the aircraft? Or just plain wrong.
Thanks for that info James.
I’m worried now. I’d best talk to the police (our local version of Chief Wiggum 🙂 ) and see what they can do.
Dave
Do you really need to call out the bomb squad for .303 ammunition? Seems a little excessive, isn’t it?
I would suggest a phonecall to the local police will do the trick. They’ll know who to contact and which channels to set in motion, or at the very least they’ll handle it themselves.
On a similar note – I was discussing this week with Mum and Dad that we’d better call the police about a live (I believe, but am not certain) 20mm cannon shell that was given to me when I was a teenager by an old guy who brought it back from the Pacific. He told me it was live and to be careful with it. Of course they parents instantly confiscated it, and it’s been in a cupboard in Dad’s workshop, long forgotten, since till I remembered its existence recently. Is it true that it could be really unstable and explode at any point – as was told to me recently?
Great Stuff Albert, thanks.
What did they use for the fake flak? It looks convincing.
I’ve always wondered how so many Mitchells have survived since the war compared with most bombers – were they used for firebombing or something? Or did they simply have a long air force career and made it into the warbird collectors era in big numbers? It’s great to see all five flying together there.
Good news – at the time when I interviewed Ron it was at the very beginning of my research project and I still wasn’t entirely sure of what i was doing and where I was going with the project. He had shown me his photo album and there were many excellent photos, particularly from his 488 Sqn days. I never even thought at the time to ask if I could borrow and scan them.
But with the excitement of finally getting his story up online yesterday, and going through it again, I decided to give him a call and see if he’d allow me to scan the photos. He’s happy for this to happen so I’m going to see him tomorrow. Hopefully very soon the story will be well illustrated. 🙂
I also just discovered there was a little more on the second tape of his interview, so I’ve added it into the text. Mainly at the end and in the body of the 488 Sqn text, but there’s a tiny bit about Levin too near the top. Sorry this was not included earlier, it was an oversight.
Those are great photos, thanks Mark. They really do look like genuine wartime shots.
I’ve seen the film about a decade ago but truly cannot recall a thing about it. I’d love to see your coloured shots too please Albert if you’ll allow us to see them. Thanks.
Thanks Phil, I’m glad you liked it so far.
Cheers
Dave