Or as heard today on Radio 4……”Ryanair looking to buy Stansted” God ‘elp us!
Don’t know how much help this will be to you but I would expect that your Pan Am trip would have been on a Boeing 707-320 series although far less likely it may also have been a DC8. It was too early for the 747 and too late for the piston engine types.
Likewise the BOAC trip was more than likely either the 707-420 Rolls Royce Conway powered! A 707-320 type similar to Pan Am or even if you were very lucky, a Vickers VC10. By that time it could have been one of BOACs early 747-100s. Maybe others here can help:)
I find it curious that the staunchest supporters of the ‘free market’ are so often the first to complain when market forces don’t work in their favour.
Mentioning no names, naturally…… 😎
I don’t find it curious at all. Most Free Market “Stalinists” react in this way whenever they see others of the same ilk doing likewise, its a fact of life. Here is a situation where Ryanair is not in control of these bookings or those making them and more importantly for them, is not able to subsidise the unrealistic fares being charged unless coralling the ‘punters’ through their own website to purchase the additional things to make the operation pay. The passengers must vote with their feet, there are many other cheaper and better airlines out there….use ’em.
I think this was the airline ?I flew in a Caravelle once from Marseille to Paris and was astonished to find that the seats in front faced me !So you could hold a conversation with the people in front!This would have been about 1978.
Yep! that sounds about right. Air Inter was a very big operator of the Caravelle in more than one version. Air Inter inherited most if not all the Sterling Caravelle 12s leaving Sterling to operate and acquire more of the smaller Caravelle 10Bs. I can remember in 82 or 83 “ramping” an Okada Air of Nigeria Caravelle via Stansted, which I think was an early 6R with the type of seating arrangement you describe, although on that day it carried rolls of old carpet and car spares to Kano via Palma, the cargo just crammed into the passenger cabin as per the airlines instructions…it made you weep to see such a beautiful aircraft treated that way:(
Vandals. I’ve long had a soft spot for the Caravelle. It was the first aircraft I ever flew in. Luton to Kastrup with Sterling Airways. They painted their aircraft a sensible white back then.
As a Traffic Officer at Stansted in the 80s I used to ramp the Sterling Caravelle 10Bs and 12s, the ultimate stretched Caravelle, a beautiful aircraft in a lovely colour scheme, especially with the polished lower fuselage and wings. Also looked after Transwede Caravelles until their MD80s arrived. Flew on JAT Caravelles, Finnair 10Bs and also Transeuropa 11Rs which had main deck freight doors. Flew the Oslo-Gardemoen to Stansted and Stockholm Arlanda to Stansted a few times courtesy of Sterling. A lovely aircraft, better to look at and fly in than the very capable but souless airliners of today.
Great pics! Actually flew on that Interflug IL18 from Gatwick to Tirana/Rinas back in the 80s. The return to LGW two weeks later was by Tu134A:)
Great shots. Although I am involved with “ordinary airliners” day to day I do like the Global Express, Falcon and Gulfstream types. I was recently given a 1/48 scale Global Express model, what a beautiful design! Thanx for sharing those images.
With the exception of the IL-86, which actually falls within the category of ‘Shed’. :diablo:
Oi! if you don’t mind, our Shorts 330s all in blue were the original sheds!:D:D:D
Weren´t Tu-154-s delivered last year? Like Boeing 717-s?
Quite right, I believe that three or four new 154Ms were delivered to Govt agencies within Russia. Funny, but when I first got into aviation in 1979 no one had a good word to say about Soviet types…..how times change:D
Great images! Especially the Etihad.
Beautifully put Andy, as usual on this topic you are spot on. These carriers have never reflected the true costs of what they do, supported as they are by one subsidy or another, usually a handling agent or an airport driven into the ground financially to get the business with the usual result of decimated pay and conditions for the many staff involved or handouts from local councils or trade bodies. These carriers have been very fortunate to have been spawned in an exceptionally long era of cheap fuel which has been at the centre of this flawed business model for a long time. As a senior manager at the then new “Go” airline once told me, and I quote, “If King Faud gets out of bed the wrong side tomorrow then we are all fu**ed” Its going to be very interesting, especially to those of us in the industry to see how these so called “low cost” carriers cope facing the costs of the real world in which they operate.
As we’re talkin Tupolevs I’m biased also:D The 727 may have sold more but thats about it.
Great shots. Love that DC10!
Those Gulfstreams are just beautiful:)
Sorry Neil, I like the Trident very much but the Tu154 is IMO better looking and more successful;)