Yup, thats the info that I have. Interesting because some of the Airtours DC10s were operated by Scanair in the first place before all the mergers happened.
Nice pics, we see that Atlas machine frequently at STN. That Delta scheme has to be one of the most boring devised to date, but I like the current one.
Lovely aircraft and two great liveries! Like a modern day DC8-60 series.
greekdude, sorry mate but I didn’t see your question until this morning. No there is no tie up between either of the Skyservice companies and Airtours, its just a case of similar liveries. The DC10s were leased with revised titles applied. Premiair was formed from a merger of the Danish charter airline Conair and the SAS charter offshoot Scanair, this was in turn absorbed by the Airtours group and this eventualy “morphed” into My Travel. (dreadful name-even worse livery-just my opinion!) Hope the info of interest.
Love that new NWA scheme though!
I believe that this sets a very bad precedent indeed. Hijacking is air piracy at its very worst, there is absolutely no justification in a civilised world for the seizure, at the point of arms and under the threat of violence, of a civilian airliner going about its lawful business. The justification used by these criminals could apply to the citizens of many countries, I fear it will open the doorway to more of these types of offence. I was senior on duty in an Ops office at Stansted the night that these criminals threatened to the poor duty ATC controller on open tower frequency to kill further hostages unless a certain individual was brought to the aircraft. I shall always remember the calm and professional manner that the ATC guy maintained when we could all hear the shouts of terror in the background as the criminals made their demand live on the tower frequency. No, this is a bad verdict! Has the world gone completely mad?
Nice one Andrew, one of the nicer post 1990 liveries on the Tu154
Ooooooh yes!!
Poor old Aeroflot! I’ve flown with them many times, mainly pre-1990 and I’m still here. True on some internal sectors the cabin service was basic, but no worse than that I experienced on a flight from STN to SXF on Virgin Express and one or two journeys with them between STN and SNN…tatty uniforms and gum chewing cabin staff somehow making a trip with Virgin Express that much more memorable! Its also easy to forget that during the “cold war” years that any airborne activity involving civilian aircraft was controlled and flown by Aeroflot, therefore any accident within the vast territory of the USSR involving a civilian aircraft went down against Aeroflots safety record, so as far as the rest of the world was concerned wether it was a crop duster in central Bashkiria flying into power lines or an air ambulance crash landing in Vladivostok, it was all black marks against Aeroflot. In fact it would be an interesting statistical exercise to compare the total number of movements conducted for a period of a year by Aeroflot in its pre-1990 period to the number of accidents/lives lost. I suspect that Aeroflot at that time was no more unsafe than many “western ones” in view of the huge number of flights/tasks undertaken and people/cargo carried.
I still say that in this present international climate, the airlines flying long haul to potentially dangerous destinations should be entitled to short term assistance from their respective Govts. These are exceptional times for the airline industry and as such demand exceptional responses. The free market remedies will be fine for when the sun comes out again. The LoCos are lucky that, hopping around the “parish”, they don’t face the same dilemmas as their full service long haul brethren. Greekdude, I am not advocating that the US abolish its State subsidies for its carriers, that is an internal matter for Washington, I would just like to see the same privilages granted to our affected carriers, as I said at the start “A level playing field”
Sorry Andrew but the later Airtours scheme gets my vote!
“Competing” is fine when everyones doing it…but as is being demonstrated in the US not everyone is today. In my opinion whats good for the US will do very nicely for all of us. I would not object to seeing state funding for airlines in certain circumstances. “Competing” is fine when the suns out but I think that things are getting too serious for the situation to be left to market forces alone. I am not advocating a return to the days of state owned flag carriers, well not yet, but until the situation ref subsidies in the US is resolved then the govt should review the situation without further delay, alot of peoples jobs and futures depend on this industry.
Mongu, I have no quarrel with your view on the free market at all but I just wonder if going to the WTO will rectify the situation. As Eddington pointed out this AM on the BBC, these latest BA figures do not take into account the Iraq war, SARS or the Kenya situation so these will raise their ugly financial heads in the next set of figures. I just wonder wether this worldwide situation in the airline industry is bigger than the free market can handle. If the “cradle of free enterprise”, the USA, is adopting the “State Aid” route to stabilising the situation, then where is the incentive for other governments not to do the same? What you say makes sense but perhaps present circumstances dictate a different approach.
The most bizzare in flight shopping guide has to be the A4 sized sheet of tracing paper stuffed into the back of our Air Koryo IL62 seat reminding you not to leave the aircraft without the condensed works of Kim Il Sung for the princely sum of $35! I declined that, as well as the Pocket guide to Korean Exotic fish for $12!
Kabir, It looks like an Ilyushin IL12 to me, The livery Soviet Air Force?