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February 6, 2003 at 1:15 pm in reply to: What aircraft reckage? #2092779

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RE: What aircraft reckage?

Definately an Su25 Frogfoot.

An interesting point this. What is relevant Flypast material? This aeroplane is ex-military, probably has a combat history, and is most definately out of service! So is it Flypast material?

In 30 years time it will be historic, but isn’t it part of history already?

Willow

February 6, 2003 at 12:09 pm in reply to: German aircraft carrier #2092782

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RE: German aircraft carrier

Wasn’t the Bf109T a navalised variant with an arrestor hook?

Can you imagine how hard it would be to land a 109 on a carrier? By all accounts (and the number of ground loops over the years) they’re difficult enough to get down on dry land!

Willow

February 4, 2003 at 12:21 pm in reply to: Pyrotechnics? #2092881

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RE: Smoke

Surely, the best pyrotechnics of all time are connected with Lindsay Walton and his Bf108 (Nord1002).

I remember him being at various 1980s USAF shows including Mildenhall and Alconbury. It used to go something like this……

The 108 would appear, low level, and perform a couple of flybys. It would then get lower (if possible), and as it passed crowd centre an enormous explosion would follow, very close to some old USAF style van or bus. This would be repeated. It would ALWAYS be the third explosion that ‘hit’ the bus. No more Bus.
The defending aircraft, usually a pair of Harvards, would then appear. After chasing him about for a bit, the 108 would emit a trail of thick black smoke, and after a couple more passes the 108 would exit at low level, still trailing smoke.

The best of these that I can remember was at Alconbury, where having destroyed a bus, the 108 was ‘shot down’ by the late Patrick Lindsays Mk1 Spitfire (AR213). The 108 could still be seen low over the Cambridgshire countryside 20mins later, still trailing smoke!

Fantastic.

Willow

February 4, 2003 at 11:59 am in reply to: What Do You Eat And Drink At Airshows? #2092884

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RE: Beer preference and advanced photographic technique

As I take a lot of Airshow photographs, using your technique will give me a great excuse to drink a lot more beer in the evenings while looking at them. Thank you very much!

February 3, 2003 at 1:42 pm in reply to: Memorial to Mark. #2092956

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RE: Memorial to Mark.

MH434 is a tribute to Mark in her own right, and doesn’t need any kind of fictitious nose art to remind us of one of the best warbird display pilots of all time.

Just keep it flying. Thats enough for me.

February 3, 2003 at 12:01 pm in reply to: What Do You Eat And Drink At Airshows? #2092964

Willow
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RE: DONUTS

Much better now, thank you.

I have given up Beer at Airshows as all my photos kept coming out blurred!

February 3, 2003 at 8:16 am in reply to: Lancaster B.X KB976 #2092977

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RE: Lancaster B.X KB976

Does anyone know what the current stauts of the Lincoln is?
It a great shame that such a rare British aeroplane (only 2 others left) seems to have vanished.

Maybe all the money raised towards getting Vulcan XH558 to fly could be better used in buying and restoring this four engined Avro bomber instead.

Willow

February 2, 2003 at 12:33 am in reply to: Pyrotechnics? #2093077

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RE: Pyrotechnics?

So would the owner!

MkIV Ford Zephyrs are, to coin a phrase, ‘a bit thin on the ground’ these days!!!!!

Willow

P.S. Sorry, couldn’t resist that.

February 2, 2003 at 12:29 am in reply to: What Do You Eat And Drink At Airshows? #2093118

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RE: DONUTS

No prize for guessing what DOUGHNUTs favourite food is!!

Some people are so touchy. Even display pilots have to eat.
Maybe we should attempt to guess which pilot eats what.

Any pilot who carries out an aerobatic routine shouldn’t eat anything at all!!

January 31, 2003 at 11:23 am in reply to: Rebuild or Replica?? #2093299

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RE: Rebuild or Replica??

You can just imagine the airshow commentator….

‘this Spitfire has been owned and flown by Rolls Royce since 1947, it suffered a mishap in the early 1990s, but was rebuilt and is, today, one of the british airshow scenes longest serving Spitfires’

‘a mishap’.

Could have been a wheels up landing.

As I’ve said before, I love watching and listening to old aircraft, and will delight in watching RM689 in the air again be it original or not, but I think it should be made clear to those that wish to know, that it is a fully rebuilt aircraft with a new airframe.

As for the Replica Yak3s, having an Allison engine in them is as bad as a Fokker DR1 replica having a radial engine instead of a rotary.
A Sea Fury is just not the same when it’s not Centuraus powered. So the same must be true of the Yaks, and yes, I know there aren’t any working examples of russian WW2 engines.

The Grumman F3Fs are a fantastic piece of work, but how many people at Legends 2001 realise that these were 1990s biplanes and not original 1930s biplanes.
The ‘WOW, isn’t it amazing that something so old looks in such good condition’ factor is very misplaced when used on these aeroplanes.

And yes, I did enjoy seeing them fly. But I appreciated them for what they were, not for what they were pretending to be.

Another thought…
How many Grumman Avengers throughout the world are painted to represent George Bush’s aircraft? How many people think they have just seen the ACTUAL aeroplane the George Bush flew operationally?

I’m not argueing that the aircraft shouldn’t be built/rebuilt/painted in whatever scheme. I’m saying that we should not pretend they are something that they’re not.

Willow

January 30, 2003 at 3:48 pm in reply to: Rebuild or Replica?? #2093497

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RE: Rebuild or Replica??

Whether the Me262 is a newbuild or a rebuild after repair does not detract from the point that it is most definately a replica.

A further example..

Spitfire XVI TD248 flies from Duxford in a silver and red colour scheme after it’s rebuild by Historic Flying and very nice it is too.
You would consider it original, as it has simply been taken off a gate and repaired so it can fly (that’s probably a great injustice to the craftsmanship of the people at Historic Flying).

HOWEVER…..

The Norfolk and Suffolk museum at Flixton has, in its collection, a Spitfire fuselage. It is labelled as TD248 and it is all the original fuselage skins taken from the aeroplane during its restoration. It forms a complete fuselage.
So, who has the original, Flixton or Duxford?

January 30, 2003 at 9:34 am in reply to: Rivits #2093533

Willow
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RE: Rivits

I’ve been tying for years to avoid getting a reputation as a ‘rivit counter’, but…..

I’m pretty certain that the Sunderland is completely flush rivitted. I’m not 100% sure about the rear fuselage. It’s just possible that it changes just behind the wing. As someone who’s been on the Sunderland crew at Duxford since 1982 you’d think I’d remember wouldn’t you!!

I’m fairly sure that the Lancaster is flush rivitted as well.

I’ll check tonight when I get home and get back to you tomorrow.

Willow

January 30, 2003 at 9:00 am in reply to: Privatised Red Arrows !!! #2093567

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Dead Sparrows come back to life….

Great news.

I love the Gnat, in my opinion it’s one of the best looking jets ever (after the Hunter and Sea Hawk of course).

This sort of thing is all about nostalgia (and money!) and as I can well remember the ‘Reds’ flying Gnats I think it would be good to see at least a third of them again!

Sounds very expensive to operate though, I hope there’s plenty of money behind this because Airshow organisers don’t generally have a lot to throw about.

January 28, 2003 at 11:28 pm in reply to: Which airshow performer do you miss the most. #2093683

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RE: Which airshow performer do you miss the most.

So many, sadly.

The most missed however are Mark Hanna and Neil Williams.

For aircraft, the Mosquito, Sea Fury T20 (you know, the silver one), and the old Rolls Royce Spitfire XIV (RM689).

Let us all just hope that there are no new additions to this in the future.

Willow

January 28, 2003 at 11:32 am in reply to: Easyjet A320? #680065

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RE: Easyjet A320?

Thanks everyone.

MYT sounds most likely to me (well it WAS orange)

Cheers

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