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As I understand it so as to be accurate and also historicaly correct the film is to be made in India, and Mel Gibson (yes a direct decendant of Guy ) is to play Barns Wallis just to show that it was the good old USA that provided the means and expertise . While Guy Gibson is to be played by that excelent young movie actor Samuel L. Jackson ( Gibson as you will be aware was a member of the Eagle squadron and had flown form the USA with a new Bomber destined for the French Air force but they could not hold out in time for his arrival so he returned to great britain with this fine war prize – the First Beoing built Avro Lancaster Special ).
Well alls well that ends well and the yanks wone the war again
Oh I forgot there is a romantic interlude, Gibon, (Samuel L. Jackson) falls for
a young Waff officer( never just an erk ) who is played by English actress Jessie Wallace late of TV Eastenders in the part she plays an east end girl who has lost her family to the bombing And finds new hope with Guy(Samuel) in the USA after the successful Damms Raid.
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Let’s do the whole thing properly with Eighth Air Force B17s using a single 500 lb bomb carrying iot the raid in daylight. Who will care for N*gger then
M100 Student
George had projected several developments of the Student including a 4 seater with a more powerful engine and also a twin engined version with podded engines a la Citation. His daughter loaned a model of this latter configuration to the Shoreham Airport Historical Association for display on the feature celebrating the 50th anniversary of the first flight of the Student in May 2007
He had a good chance to get the Student built by Denel, and accepted by the South African Air Force as a basic trainer but was unable to obtain an export license due to the political situation in SA
Its nice to see two of the prototypes built by FG Miles Ltd at Shoreham, (M100 and B06X) are being restored even if it is only to display condition
It appears to have been owned by Miles or related companies right up to it accident, so why was it based a Glasgow instead of Shoreham?
Most of the test flying for the Student was carried out by Duncan Macintosh, later to become MD for Loganair. When George had his disagreement with the Beagle board, and had to remove the aircraft from Shoreham, he took up an offer from Duncan to base the aircraft in the Loganair hangar at Glasgow.
I had an unconfirmed report that when he retired in the mid 1980s, George sold the Student to Doug Arnold of Aces High who re-registered it as G-MIOO. It reputedly had an engine flame-out at 600 ft when flying out of Duxford, and was seriously damaged in the ensuing forced landing. I have no knowledge of any injuries to persons on board. It is currently being rebuilt to display condition at I believe the Museum of Berkshire Aviation.
My interest in the Student stems from the time I spent as an apprentice cleaning and polishing it!!!
Miles Aircraft
The M100 Student first flew on 15th May 1957 wearing the Class B registration G-35-4, and was later allocated the registration G-APLK, and SX941 for trials with weapons. The Student was not transferred to Beagle and remained in George Miles possession. The Student 2 had the Student 1’s Marbore 6 replaced by a more powerful Marbore 8. A better history of the Student is contained in the booklet “My life in the Aircraft Industry” by Derek R Emsley who was the Chargehand Fitter during the life of the M100
One of the first out-of-sequence registrations used by Miles was G-AHDM for the HDM 105 proof of concept aircraft, which was a conversion from Aerovan G-AJOF with the wooden wing replaced by an all metal high aspect ratio wing designed by Avions Hurel Dubois in France. The registration G-AHDM was in itself unique as it had previously been allocated to a Halton
Many thanks to all the contributors to this thread. The enquiry was prompted by reading about the Berlin Airlift, and I wondered what the British aircraft industry was doing whilst the US was filling the sky with Connies and DCs
Having denied Beagle of capital loans to finance production and development of the 206 did he not have any sense of deja-vue when transferring production of the Bulldog to Scottish Aviation, and making several hundred staff redundant on the South Coast despite efforts to purchase the remnants of Beagle from the receiver by respected light aviation entrepreneurs.
He did the same thing with Handley-Page transferring the Jetstream production North of the border
Did he get the alleged desired electoral response at the decimation of the British aircraft manufacturing industry
My sole connection wirth Beagle was being made redundant in October 1962
Some comments on previous posts to this thread
Accountant built by Aviation Traders at Southend registered G-ATEL. This was one of the first out of sequence registrations, not far behind was G-AHDM for the Miles HDM105.
I think JEA were using a Twin Pin on their Shoreham to Jersey route in the mid to late 80s, using the TwinPin now owned by Air Atlantique
Channel Airways was operating the Shoreham – Portsmouth – Jersey service with Dragon Rapides in 1956 and changed about 1958 -59 to Doves. The only one that I remember was G-ANVU and also G-AO??
I remember seeing the 4 x Leonides Major engined Herald spending two days at Shoreham sometime during the period 1958 – 1960 for rough and unprepared airfield trials
Why not put your Sabre to better use by building a Hawker Typhoon or Tempest
If you put a Napier Sabre in a Spitfire airframe it wouldn’t be a Spitfire, but a *******. It wouldn’t sound like a Spitfire and removes one more airframe from the ranks of authentic Spitfires
I say “no deal”
HP Hermes
Could anyone advise me of the total no of Hermes built and who operated them Were they all taildraggers like the Hastings which I associate possibly erroneously, as a military Hermes ?
At least she’s found a good home
Talking of B25s, can anyone tell me what happened to N7614C which was abandoned at Shoreham in the 70s until seized by the airport authorities and sold to pay the outstanding parking fees. Was she restored and/or was she re-registered. Is she airworthy or preserved somehwere. As I recall she had the rear turret removed and a fairing installed so that she could be used as a cameraship.
I had a similar problem nlast year when BA were onnly offering flights LGW-MPL up until 30th March due to the purchase of Gib-Air by easyjet. Have you tried slumming it with Ryanair or easyjet?
Thank you very much for your inputs. When I asked the members of George’s design team, nobody could recall any useful information for a book that I am writing on the products of the Miles group of companies post Beagle
Turbo powered B206
The 206 is a notoriously difficult and expensive aircraft to operate and all credit to Key for keeping this one alive.
If it were to be fitted with alternative engines, not being a permit aircraft, the mountain of paperwork and associated costs would exceed the aircraft’s operational ceiling and it would also no longer be an authentic preserved aircraft.
Educated guesses only.
Moggy
As a very junior member of the drawing office I remember a rumour about the Beagle B208 which was a turbo powered 206. Can anyone from the Design office confirm this?+