I have to agree. Andraxuss posted a complete wall of text full of statistics which may or may not be verified and which can not be placed into any kind of useful context.

Exactly.

I also thought it was a widely acknowledged fact that an F-22 can out-turn an F-15 STR or ITR. There’s a whole bunch of numbers in there that I don’t like.

PhD thesis for doing it without bistatic radars.

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/scs/people/academic-research-staff/herve-borrion/publications/processing-techniques.pdf

Except for when he writes about Rafale then all is wonderful, apart from when it may sound a wee bit negative in which case he’s Rafale bashing.

Aaaah… The French’s strange obsession with Jon Lake. You know you love him, let it out, does you no good keeping it in.

Seems to me that there are a lot of onion-munchers who believe an aircraft with no export sales must be better than the Typhoon at absolutely everything. When someone suggests otherwise, they’re biased.

It would be senseless to try explaining to such people that the very same design decisions that gave the Rafale better lift at low altitude also impede its high altitude STR capability….. so I’m not going to try.

It seems that the Phoons and the DAVE´s were actually doing work (per oposition to “photo oportunity”), they were testing the Link 16 communications between them…
Nice.

Sounds like a plan. Send the F-35s up front to find (maybe passively) and blind the bad guys whilst remaining hidden and pass the target information to the Typhoons out back for a Meteor salvo after they’ve had a go themselves. Or keep the F-35s passive and send them Captor-E targeting data from the Typhoons at a safe distance behind them. You could legitimately do either depending on whether the threat was VLO or not. The F-35s and Meteors will make the Typhoons useful against VLO enemies.

The ASQ-239 and APG-81

Found this fascinating image on the Janes website:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]229807[/ATTACH]

I haven’t seen this until now. Its a MBDA official model from this year’s Singapore Airshow with Meteor and SPEAR inside an F35 weapons bay.

http://www.janes.com/article/34213/singapore-airshow-2014-mbda-expects-spear-to-be-in-service-by-2020

Tell me, how do they know that? From BAE i guess. Did they ask other contstructors (Dassault SAAB, Sukhoi)? Dubious statement. At best.

Teeheehee, someone’s feelings are hurt again.:eagerness::very_drunk:

^The usual suspect is at it again.

Don’t bother explaining technical formulae when he doesn’t get it. Su-27 has other limitations than fuel for its range, but I suppose magic pixie dust is supposed to fix that. I believe lukos reads formulas strictly in algebraic form and cannot wrap his mind around the idea of abstract relationships and juggling multiple values within a single relationship. He still seems to think fuel consumption is linear.

Where did you pull that conclusion from? I factored in for drop tank drag and weight when working back from the ferry range in every calculation. I think I’ve mainly worked with official figures, whereas others have worked with hearsay and conjecture. There’s not one single official source that supports the claim that a Typhoon’s internal fuel range is only ~60% that of an Su-27. It’s fictitious horse**** fabricated out of nowhere. If Team JSR (Andraxxus, Amiga500 and co.) stop making stupid claims we won’t keep having conversations like this.