A/C which entered service?
What about the B-2?
As well as the Su-34
one of the most unique looking warplanes ever designed, the Bartini VVA-14
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What the….:eek:
That certainly is true
That certainly
Lol star49 – you’re a funny bunny 🙂 – most of what you claim is so hilarious! I don’t know if you get a kick out of talking rubbish or if you actually believe most of your claims. 🙂 🙂
How dare you say such things to our most repeatable member, not only at AFM but the entire W-W-W.

Rocket engines – are technically jet engines :). Ramjet is technically a jet engine!
Like the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory?
Proven against UFOs
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Ahh…… The F-302 prototype….:)
Has proved itself against ‘gliders’ but according to the briefing by O’neill (with 2 ‘L’s :D), even it is not as fast and maneuverable as the glider (let along the Ori fighter IMHO).
One interesting things about it is its naquadria hyperdrive. Remember it was used to bypass Anubis’s shields…?
Plus, F-15, F-16, MiG-29 have taken down gliders and Al’kesh too… but are overwhelmed quickly..
Hmm that seems rather too quick, but if you have seen some of the early
su-27 demo flights flown at farnborough/le bourget ,a min radius/max rate turn was included and it was around 12 seconds for 360 deg.Try this vid at 5:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M-ByZ0pBjQ
Obviously its nothing accurate, just gives a represention, general idea of the ability.
oh…and
interesting maneuvers there at 1:45+ and 4:00+…
to RSM55:
interesting info there… keep’em coming
PS:
I know this is not the thread for this, but anything new on the PAK-FA?
Hmm that seems rather too quick, but if you have seen some of the early
su-27 demo flights flown at farnborough/le bourget ,a min radius/max rate turn was included and it was around 12 seconds for 360 deg.Try this vid at 5:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M-ByZ0pBjQ
Obviously its nothing accurate, just gives a represention, general idea of the ability.
woooaaaaawwwiii…
thanx a million for posting that…
flv ripping time :diablo::dev2:
Surely you would have learnt by now that replying to certain members is just an exercise in futility? No need to feed the trolls, they are only desperate for attention, just don’t give it to them and they will eventually get bored and go bother some other poor souls.
haha…… how true…:D
Although not related but it put final nail in the claim that China itself put several tons antenna over the top of IL-76 couple of years ago which is much more complex aerodynamically which Brits/Israelis refused to do it.
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinajournal/2008/09/18/chinas-flying-phoenix-stalls-before-take-off/?mod=googlenews_wsj
China’s ‘Flying Phoenix’ Stalls Before Take-Off
WOW!
ARJ21 ‘Flying Phoenix’ = Ilyushin-76? Transformers are real…. Great news….
From xinhui @ CDF:
Olympic security command…

One question here. If EF2000 really has such good TWR, why does it seem so sluggish? Seen few performances of this bird, simply terribly disappointing, even less maneuvrable than F-18.
:confused: Hmm….. I must say I am quite surprised that post came from you…
I don’t know if you have seen an EF live flex – but it hardly seems sluggish to me at an airshow. I prefer its display to the F/A-18E/F. But thats perhaps because I’m personally not that impressed by high alpha performance. But rather transitioning seemlessly from maneuver to maneuver.
I actually saw the EF way back in 96 and 98. 96 it was really sluggish and the Rafale seem much better, much smoother (But all that was massively overshadowed by a ‘Terminator’ in the sky :D. You have one guess :p). Completely different in 98. Wow… the EF really threw itself and had lot of energy. And it seemed the difference was because in 96 it didn’t have the EJ. But EF demos after than go more and more conservative. But after 98 never saw it (or any other 4/4.5 gen a/c for that matter) live. Just internet videos.
But whatever the aircraft, can their maneuverability be judged on airshow stunts alone? Particularly, sustained high-speed, high-G at altitudes beyond the naked eye? I am not an aeronautical engineer but if the F-22 did her airshow stunts in a real battle, floating around it’d probably have an ASRAAM shoved up its rear end?




They took a page out of the ASRAAMs book it seems. IIRC its slated for integration in 2012 if funding goes the F-22s way – in increment 3.2.
If? :confused:
No other missile in the world will match
the AIM-9X Block II in range, maneuverability, off-boresight capability and
speed.”
Sounds like: Older AIM-9X, ASRAAM, Python-5, A-Darter, MICA-IR all put into one.
AIM-9X was said to have 60 g’s maybe now it 100 g’s (I read few years back that the A-Darter hit 100 g’s at one point)
Does the “AIM-9X Block II” even classify as a WVR weapon? We still don’t know the exact range of the older AIM-9X
The PAKFA designed to neutralize the F-22.
F-22 Raptor was not an unattainable new tech fighter but integrated many special techs that had been used before to it own.
Thread title: “Upgraded MiG-31 to be formidable rival for fifth gen fighters:Commander Mikhailov”
I guess “manson_322” and the gang know more than the RuAF? :rolleyes: RuAF must be stupid going for the PAK-FA and even MiG is now looking towards the “LMFS”. I mean there is super-duper upgraded MiG-31…..:rolleyes:
Russians seem to be firing on all cylinders for the “PAK-FA”. Their biggest fighter project in decades I believe…
http://www.ato.ru/rus/cis/archive/17-2007/def/def3/
http://www.ato.ru/rus/cis/archive/15-2006/def/def1/