T5RE: Amazing!
Sounds good..
I am considering starting and it’s quite a pricey hobby. The deal is, my parents will pay the £5,000 or so for me to train for my PPL at Wycombe Air Centre if I go to Uni.
T5RE: The Big Question……..
Not a fan of raisins, currants or sultanas in cakes or one their own. But for anyone who is a fan, you may want to read…
The History of the CURRANT
Ribes spp.
Saxifragaceae
Common Names: Currant (English), Johannisbeere (German), Ribes (Danish, Swedish, Italian), Groseille (French), Bes (Flemish).
The English word ‘currant’ has been used for this fruit only since 1550, taken from the fruit’s resemblance to the dried currants of Greece, raisins made from a small seedless grape. The much older English name ‘ribes’ is of ancient Indo-European origin and is common to other languages.
Species: Red, pink and white currants belong to three European species (Ribes rubrum, R. petraeum, R. sativum). Black currants are related to European (R. nigrum) and Asian (R. ussuriense) species.
Related Species: Gooseberry (Ribes grossularia, R. hirtellum), Buffalo Currant (R. aureum), Jostaberry (R. nigrum X hirtellum).
Adaptation: Currants grow best in summer humid, cool regions with great winter chilling. They are best adapted to USDA Hardiness Zones 3 through 5, although in California they are fairly productive in the coolest parts of the San Francisco Bay Area and coastal northern California. They should be considered experimental only in southern California. Currants are amendable to container culture.
DESCRIPTION
Growth Habit: All forms of currant are deciduous shrubs, fast growing under optimum conditions. The plant is a multiple-stemmed clump, to 5 feet high and as broad, but is suitable for training as a standard. Annual growth is in a single flush in spring. The roots are superficial, fine and easily damaged by frequent cultivation.
Foliage: The leaves are alternate, single, lobed and maple-like. Black currant leaves are pale green, while those of the red currant are deep blue-green. Both are easily burned by intense sunlight. Leaf size and number is reduced under water stress.
Flowers: Currant flowers are borne toward the bases of one-year old stems and on spurs on older stems. They appear in early spring with new growth. Each flower bud opens to number of flowers (up to 20), joined together on a delicate, drooping 5 – 6 inch stem, called a strig. The strig length is reduced or flowering is suppressed by lack of winter chill. Individual flowers (green in the case of red currants and blush pink for black currants) are not showy, but joined together on the strig they give the bush a lacy texture. Pollination is by hoverflies and other insects. Black currant flowers also attract honeybees. Most currants have self-fertile flowers, but a few cultivars are partially self-sterile, so set more fruits with cross-pollination. To increase both fruit size and number, clip off part of the ends of the strigs while the bushes are flowering. Depending upon the cultivar, fruits ripen from 70 to 100 days after blossoming.
Fruit: Fully set strigs will be a pendulous chain of small berries. The fruit is easier to pick if their strigs are long and have “handles” (clear lengths at the bases) for holding onto while harvesting. Black currants commonly ripen from the top down, encouraging birds to strip berries as they color. Modern red currant varieties have been selected for their ability to ripen all the berries on a strig at once. Berries of red, white and pink currants are translucent; black currants are matte brown-purple. The berries contain 3 – 12 minute, bony seeds.
CULTURE
Location: Currants like morning sun, afternoon part-shade and buoyant air circulation. They can be grown in the high shade of fruit trees such as persimmon, as well as on the north side of buildings. The leaves sunburn readily and the plants collapse quickly when the soil or air temperature exceeds 85° F. Currants can withstand ocean winds but the salt air will burn the leaves and turn them ragged.
Soil: Currants are not finicky about soil but, in keeping with their proclivity for cold, prefer heavier soils richer in clay. A thick mulch of some organic material also keeps the soil cool in summer while adding humus to the soil. Sandy soils are less suitable for currants because they dry out too fast. The plants will not tolerate alkaline or salty soil.
Irrigation: With their fibrous, shallow roots, currants are are ideal for drip irrigation. Keep the plants watered until the fruit is harvested. At this point they stop active growth and the watering frequency can be reduced. Plants stressed for water are susceptible to mildew.
Fertilization: Apply nitrogen at an annual rate of about four ounces per square yard. With too much nitrogen the plants become more prone to disease. Potassium deficiency, evidenced by marginal scorching of the leaves is averted with about half an once of potassium to the square yard. Avoid potassium chloride, because currants are sensitive to the chloride ion.
Pruning: Annual pruning increases yields and keeps plants manageable. Prune so that most fruits are borne on spurs of two- or three-year old wood. A program of pruning will maintain a continuous supply of such wood. In the winter of the plant’s first season, remove at ground level all but two or three stems. The following winter again remove all but two or three that grew the previous season, at which point the bush will have two or three each of one- and two-year old stems. Continue this each season, but by the fourth winter start cutting away at their bases any stems more than three years old. Each winter also shorten long stems that have grown too scraggly. Do not prune after spring growth has commenced. Plants can be trained to a number of utilitarian and decorative forms.
Propagation: Currant seeds germinate if stratified for three to four months at temperatures just above freezing. Seedlings are prolific and do not vary much from parent. Bushes grown from seed bear when two or three years old.
Currants are easily propagated by hardwood cuttings of one-year old wood. Take one-foot cuttings of dormant wood in late winter, dip the base in rooting hormone and pot in ordinary soil. Cuttings will quickly root and are best kept in part shade for the first year. If the plants are to be grown as standards, strip all buds off cutting below soil line. Currants can also be grafted, but no advantage is gained.
Pests and Diseases: Currants are subject to a variety of insect and disease pests. Gall mite (not reported yet in California) infests dormant buds during summer. Affected buds swell, form dried rosettes, and fail to break during following spring. Whole stem becomes blind and dies back to ground. Plant should be removed and burned immediately upon detection. Aphids commonly distort currant foliage causing red spots. Spider mites are common and also cause foliar distortion. Clear-winged borers lay their eggs on stems in late spring. The larvae hatch and bore into the stems where they remain until the following season. An infestation is usually detected only after the stem wilts and dies. Borers will spread and generally cause loss of whole a planting without quick control. Cut out affected stems, search for others and spray. The leaves are not attractive to deer.
The most feared disease in black (rarely red) currant is reversion virus, and appears as weakened, barren plants with pleated leaves. The virus, which is spread by common and gall mites, is endemic in Europe but not yet known in California. There is no cure; do not import plant material from European sources. Ribes species are also host for white pine blister rust, which causes few problems for currants but is lethal for 5-needle pines, including California natives such as Western White (Pinus monticola) and Sugar Pine (P. lambertiana). Currants are banned in counties where these pines are grown for lumber.
Botrytis and Anthracnose can cause rot of leaves and loss of young growth, usually stems lying on the ground or splashed during irrigation. Gooseberry mildew infects currants, especially in humid areas, but is not common in California. It is worst in coastal fog or where irrigation is by overhead sprinkling. Keep plants turgid, never water-stressed. Benomyl spray before flowering and after harvest should control it. Currant roots are susceptible to both Oak Root fungus (Armillaria) and Phytophthora.
Harvest: Most cultivars hold well on the plant. For fresh eating let the berries hang for about three weeks after they color up. If the fruits are to be stored at all, they should be picked dry. To avoid damaging the fruits, pick a whole strig by its stem, taking care not to damage the spur. Yields vary greatly, depending on growing conditions and cultivar. Anywhere from three pounds to over ten pounds may be harvested from a single bush.
Currants are unsurpassed for jelly, but are also good in pies and sauces, especially when mixed with fruits that have body but lack sprightliness. Currants have also been used for wine, said by some to be similar in flavor to Graves or Rhine wines. Black currants are the traditional source of the French liqueur, Cassis.
CULTIVARS
Red Currants
Red currants are for culinary use: juice, jellies and purees. Cultivars are selected for the clarity of juice, size of berry and productivity.
Jonkheer van Tets
Origin J. Maarse, Schellenkhout (NL), 1931. Seedling of Fay’s Prolific. Vigorous, habit spreading, bush open. Blooms early, resists mildew. Fruits earliest to ripen, tend to run off (drop) from strig.
Perfection
Origin Charles Hooker, Rochester NY, 1887. Bush upright, twiggy, roots particularly susceptible to Armillaria. Strigs clustered at base of current year’s growth, fruits small to average, clear red, midseason.
Red Lake
Origin W.H. Alderman, Excelsior MN, 1933. Bush vigorous, much branching, roots most resistant to Armillaria, tolerates some dryness. Resists mildew. Tends to break dormancy early, with protracted bloom, some strigs ripening as others are still in bloom. Earlier fruits will mature while soil remains moist from winter rains. Berries dark red, rather small.
Wilder – R. Vulgare.
Origin E.G. Teas, Irvington IN, 1878. Seedling of Red Versailles. Bush spreading, tends to layer self. Largest of red currants. Ripens late, hold long on bush. Very productive of full strigs of rather oblate, pale red berries.
White Currants
An albino forms of the red currant. More versatile but less colorful than the red; fine for all culinary uses, but are of lower acidity, thus also suitable for fresh eating. The best sorts are nearly transparent.
Weisse aus Juterbog – R. petraeum.
Origin Juterbog (D), 1890s. Bush slow growing, upright, sunburns easily. Not productive, few berries on short strigs, not adapted to California.
White Imperial – R. rubrum.
Origin S.D. Willard, Geneva, NY, 1890. Bush spreading, not upright, withstands California conditions well. Very productive on long strigs of small round berries. Lowest in acid of currants, suitable for dessert.
White Versailles – R. vulgare.
Origin Bertin, Versailles (F), 1840. Bush tall, branches few. Not vigorous. Fairly productive of well-filled strigs. Berries round, seedy. Midseason.
Pink Currants
Pink Currants are intermediate between red and white types, in degree of pigmentation. Skin is colorless, flesh is pink. All are R. vulgare.
Gloire des Sablons
Origin France, ancient. Most common form of pink currant. Bush upright, not branching, productive, berries quite large but few on strig.
Black Currants
Black Currants have a characteristic aroma, highly esteemed by natives of northern Europe. Leaves also release the scent when rubbed. Fruit are astringent, suitable only for culinary uses. Certain Canadian cultivars (Consort, Crusader, Coronet) are R. nigrum X ussuriense hybrids, bred to resist mildew and rust, are self- and inter-sterile and of inferior flavor, are not recommended.
Blacksmith
Origin Laxton Bros, Bedford (GB), 1916. Bush very vigorous, quick to reach bearing size, much branching. Productive, strigs long, flavor fair.
Boskoop Giant
Origin Boskoop (NL), 1890s. Bush vigorous, upright, branching low. Requires pollinator. Strigs few and short, berries not uniform in size. Flavor good.
Noir de Bourgogne
Origin Dijon (F), very ancient. The traditional black currant for making Cassis. Bush very spreading, low open. Fairly productive, slow to begin producing. Strigs short, many, berries of best flavor.
Wellington XXX
Origin R. Wellington, East Malling (GB), 1913. Bush spreading, often trailing and self-layering. Withstands adverse conditions (sun). Berries tend to “run off”, shed before strig fully mature. Flavor fair.
Willoughby
Origin Walter Willoughby, Parkside, Sask., 1940. Bush open, spreading, hardy to cold and sun, resists mildew. Fertile, short strigs, fair flavor.
Buffalo Currants
Ribes aureum. A distant relative of the common Ribes, Buffalo Currant is probably closer to gooseberry. Native to American prairies, they are extraordinarily hardy bushes and productive. The bush resembles common Ribes, but is wider and weeping, with branch tips eventually touching the ground. It needs no pruning and stems tend to go blind, shedding dormant buds after the first year. It tolerates a wide range of soils, even alkali, and does not require much winter chill. Leaves are small, felty, gray-green and many-lobed. Flowers are profuse, showy, yellow and fragrant, resemble Forsythia in bloom. It makes a prolific production of pea-sized or larger, glossy brownish-purple, bland-flavored berries with persistent style, that resemble American gooseberry when cooked. They are palatable raw or cooked. Ripe fruits last long on the bush, often 2 months. It is adaptable to a range of climates and the only species recommended for southern California.
Crandall
Origin uncertain, probably Iowa, 1890s. Still the best for fruit quality. Bush rather weak, weeping, fruit hidden inside foliage, difficult to find.
Jostaberry
Jostaberries are hybrids of black currant and the American gooseberry, R. hirtellum, produced in Germany, 1930s-50s. They are currently a subject of commercial promotion, but performance in California is disappointing. The bush is very tall, thornless, tends not to branch and requires the space of 2 currant bushes. The foliage is glossy, larger than gooseberry, lobed, scentless and resists mildew. It survives full sunlight but requires much winter chilling. The lateral buds usually shed, leaving blind branches. Purple or brownish-red fruit are borne on lax, few-berried strigs. They are the size of small gooseberry and lacking in flavor, suitable only for experimentation. Buffalo currant produces comparable fruit more abundantly in less space and is recommended instead. New forms of Josta, backcrossed to the black currant parent, may be better than original types.
No offence, but if you’ve actually managed to get this far, you really should get out more!
T5RE: The Big Question……..
Not a fan of raisins, currants or sultanas in cakes or one their own. But for anyone who is a fan, you may want to read…
The History of the CURRANT
Ribes spp.
Saxifragaceae
Common Names: Currant (English), Johannisbeere (German), Ribes (Danish, Swedish, Italian), Groseille (French), Bes (Flemish).
The English word ‘currant’ has been used for this fruit only since 1550, taken from the fruit’s resemblance to the dried currants of Greece, raisins made from a small seedless grape. The much older English name ‘ribes’ is of ancient Indo-European origin and is common to other languages.
Species: Red, pink and white currants belong to three European species (Ribes rubrum, R. petraeum, R. sativum). Black currants are related to European (R. nigrum) and Asian (R. ussuriense) species.
Related Species: Gooseberry (Ribes grossularia, R. hirtellum), Buffalo Currant (R. aureum), Jostaberry (R. nigrum X hirtellum).
Adaptation: Currants grow best in summer humid, cool regions with great winter chilling. They are best adapted to USDA Hardiness Zones 3 through 5, although in California they are fairly productive in the coolest parts of the San Francisco Bay Area and coastal northern California. They should be considered experimental only in southern California. Currants are amendable to container culture.
DESCRIPTION
Growth Habit: All forms of currant are deciduous shrubs, fast growing under optimum conditions. The plant is a multiple-stemmed clump, to 5 feet high and as broad, but is suitable for training as a standard. Annual growth is in a single flush in spring. The roots are superficial, fine and easily damaged by frequent cultivation.
Foliage: The leaves are alternate, single, lobed and maple-like. Black currant leaves are pale green, while those of the red currant are deep blue-green. Both are easily burned by intense sunlight. Leaf size and number is reduced under water stress.
Flowers: Currant flowers are borne toward the bases of one-year old stems and on spurs on older stems. They appear in early spring with new growth. Each flower bud opens to number of flowers (up to 20), joined together on a delicate, drooping 5 – 6 inch stem, called a strig. The strig length is reduced or flowering is suppressed by lack of winter chill. Individual flowers (green in the case of red currants and blush pink for black currants) are not showy, but joined together on the strig they give the bush a lacy texture. Pollination is by hoverflies and other insects. Black currant flowers also attract honeybees. Most currants have self-fertile flowers, but a few cultivars are partially self-sterile, so set more fruits with cross-pollination. To increase both fruit size and number, clip off part of the ends of the strigs while the bushes are flowering. Depending upon the cultivar, fruits ripen from 70 to 100 days after blossoming.
Fruit: Fully set strigs will be a pendulous chain of small berries. The fruit is easier to pick if their strigs are long and have “handles” (clear lengths at the bases) for holding onto while harvesting. Black currants commonly ripen from the top down, encouraging birds to strip berries as they color. Modern red currant varieties have been selected for their ability to ripen all the berries on a strig at once. Berries of red, white and pink currants are translucent; black currants are matte brown-purple. The berries contain 3 – 12 minute, bony seeds.
CULTURE
Location: Currants like morning sun, afternoon part-shade and buoyant air circulation. They can be grown in the high shade of fruit trees such as persimmon, as well as on the north side of buildings. The leaves sunburn readily and the plants collapse quickly when the soil or air temperature exceeds 85° F. Currants can withstand ocean winds but the salt air will burn the leaves and turn them ragged.
Soil: Currants are not finicky about soil but, in keeping with their proclivity for cold, prefer heavier soils richer in clay. A thick mulch of some organic material also keeps the soil cool in summer while adding humus to the soil. Sandy soils are less suitable for currants because they dry out too fast. The plants will not tolerate alkaline or salty soil.
Irrigation: With their fibrous, shallow roots, currants are are ideal for drip irrigation. Keep the plants watered until the fruit is harvested. At this point they stop active growth and the watering frequency can be reduced. Plants stressed for water are susceptible to mildew.
Fertilization: Apply nitrogen at an annual rate of about four ounces per square yard. With too much nitrogen the plants become more prone to disease. Potassium deficiency, evidenced by marginal scorching of the leaves is averted with about half an once of potassium to the square yard. Avoid potassium chloride, because currants are sensitive to the chloride ion.
Pruning: Annual pruning increases yields and keeps plants manageable. Prune so that most fruits are borne on spurs of two- or three-year old wood. A program of pruning will maintain a continuous supply of such wood. In the winter of the plant’s first season, remove at ground level all but two or three stems. The following winter again remove all but two or three that grew the previous season, at which point the bush will have two or three each of one- and two-year old stems. Continue this each season, but by the fourth winter start cutting away at their bases any stems more than three years old. Each winter also shorten long stems that have grown too scraggly. Do not prune after spring growth has commenced. Plants can be trained to a number of utilitarian and decorative forms.
Propagation: Currant seeds germinate if stratified for three to four months at temperatures just above freezing. Seedlings are prolific and do not vary much from parent. Bushes grown from seed bear when two or three years old.
Currants are easily propagated by hardwood cuttings of one-year old wood. Take one-foot cuttings of dormant wood in late winter, dip the base in rooting hormone and pot in ordinary soil. Cuttings will quickly root and are best kept in part shade for the first year. If the plants are to be grown as standards, strip all buds off cutting below soil line. Currants can also be grafted, but no advantage is gained.
Pests and Diseases: Currants are subject to a variety of insect and disease pests. Gall mite (not reported yet in California) infests dormant buds during summer. Affected buds swell, form dried rosettes, and fail to break during following spring. Whole stem becomes blind and dies back to ground. Plant should be removed and burned immediately upon detection. Aphids commonly distort currant foliage causing red spots. Spider mites are common and also cause foliar distortion. Clear-winged borers lay their eggs on stems in late spring. The larvae hatch and bore into the stems where they remain until the following season. An infestation is usually detected only after the stem wilts and dies. Borers will spread and generally cause loss of whole a planting without quick control. Cut out affected stems, search for others and spray. The leaves are not attractive to deer.
The most feared disease in black (rarely red) currant is reversion virus, and appears as weakened, barren plants with pleated leaves. The virus, which is spread by common and gall mites, is endemic in Europe but not yet known in California. There is no cure; do not import plant material from European sources. Ribes species are also host for white pine blister rust, which causes few problems for currants but is lethal for 5-needle pines, including California natives such as Western White (Pinus monticola) and Sugar Pine (P. lambertiana). Currants are banned in counties where these pines are grown for lumber.
Botrytis and Anthracnose can cause rot of leaves and loss of young growth, usually stems lying on the ground or splashed during irrigation. Gooseberry mildew infects currants, especially in humid areas, but is not common in California. It is worst in coastal fog or where irrigation is by overhead sprinkling. Keep plants turgid, never water-stressed. Benomyl spray before flowering and after harvest should control it. Currant roots are susceptible to both Oak Root fungus (Armillaria) and Phytophthora.
Harvest: Most cultivars hold well on the plant. For fresh eating let the berries hang for about three weeks after they color up. If the fruits are to be stored at all, they should be picked dry. To avoid damaging the fruits, pick a whole strig by its stem, taking care not to damage the spur. Yields vary greatly, depending on growing conditions and cultivar. Anywhere from three pounds to over ten pounds may be harvested from a single bush.
Currants are unsurpassed for jelly, but are also good in pies and sauces, especially when mixed with fruits that have body but lack sprightliness. Currants have also been used for wine, said by some to be similar in flavor to Graves or Rhine wines. Black currants are the traditional source of the French liqueur, Cassis.
CULTIVARS
Red Currants
Red currants are for culinary use: juice, jellies and purees. Cultivars are selected for the clarity of juice, size of berry and productivity.
Jonkheer van Tets
Origin J. Maarse, Schellenkhout (NL), 1931. Seedling of Fay’s Prolific. Vigorous, habit spreading, bush open. Blooms early, resists mildew. Fruits earliest to ripen, tend to run off (drop) from strig.
Perfection
Origin Charles Hooker, Rochester NY, 1887. Bush upright, twiggy, roots particularly susceptible to Armillaria. Strigs clustered at base of current year’s growth, fruits small to average, clear red, midseason.
Red Lake
Origin W.H. Alderman, Excelsior MN, 1933. Bush vigorous, much branching, roots most resistant to Armillaria, tolerates some dryness. Resists mildew. Tends to break dormancy early, with protracted bloom, some strigs ripening as others are still in bloom. Earlier fruits will mature while soil remains moist from winter rains. Berries dark red, rather small.
Wilder – R. Vulgare.
Origin E.G. Teas, Irvington IN, 1878. Seedling of Red Versailles. Bush spreading, tends to layer self. Largest of red currants. Ripens late, hold long on bush. Very productive of full strigs of rather oblate, pale red berries.
White Currants
An albino forms of the red currant. More versatile but less colorful than the red; fine for all culinary uses, but are of lower acidity, thus also suitable for fresh eating. The best sorts are nearly transparent.
Weisse aus Juterbog – R. petraeum.
Origin Juterbog (D), 1890s. Bush slow growing, upright, sunburns easily. Not productive, few berries on short strigs, not adapted to California.
White Imperial – R. rubrum.
Origin S.D. Willard, Geneva, NY, 1890. Bush spreading, not upright, withstands California conditions well. Very productive on long strigs of small round berries. Lowest in acid of currants, suitable for dessert.
White Versailles – R. vulgare.
Origin Bertin, Versailles (F), 1840. Bush tall, branches few. Not vigorous. Fairly productive of well-filled strigs. Berries round, seedy. Midseason.
Pink Currants
Pink Currants are intermediate between red and white types, in degree of pigmentation. Skin is colorless, flesh is pink. All are R. vulgare.
Gloire des Sablons
Origin France, ancient. Most common form of pink currant. Bush upright, not branching, productive, berries quite large but few on strig.
Black Currants
Black Currants have a characteristic aroma, highly esteemed by natives of northern Europe. Leaves also release the scent when rubbed. Fruit are astringent, suitable only for culinary uses. Certain Canadian cultivars (Consort, Crusader, Coronet) are R. nigrum X ussuriense hybrids, bred to resist mildew and rust, are self- and inter-sterile and of inferior flavor, are not recommended.
Blacksmith
Origin Laxton Bros, Bedford (GB), 1916. Bush very vigorous, quick to reach bearing size, much branching. Productive, strigs long, flavor fair.
Boskoop Giant
Origin Boskoop (NL), 1890s. Bush vigorous, upright, branching low. Requires pollinator. Strigs few and short, berries not uniform in size. Flavor good.
Noir de Bourgogne
Origin Dijon (F), very ancient. The traditional black currant for making Cassis. Bush very spreading, low open. Fairly productive, slow to begin producing. Strigs short, many, berries of best flavor.
Wellington XXX
Origin R. Wellington, East Malling (GB), 1913. Bush spreading, often trailing and self-layering. Withstands adverse conditions (sun). Berries tend to “run off”, shed before strig fully mature. Flavor fair.
Willoughby
Origin Walter Willoughby, Parkside, Sask., 1940. Bush open, spreading, hardy to cold and sun, resists mildew. Fertile, short strigs, fair flavor.
Buffalo Currants
Ribes aureum. A distant relative of the common Ribes, Buffalo Currant is probably closer to gooseberry. Native to American prairies, they are extraordinarily hardy bushes and productive. The bush resembles common Ribes, but is wider and weeping, with branch tips eventually touching the ground. It needs no pruning and stems tend to go blind, shedding dormant buds after the first year. It tolerates a wide range of soils, even alkali, and does not require much winter chill. Leaves are small, felty, gray-green and many-lobed. Flowers are profuse, showy, yellow and fragrant, resemble Forsythia in bloom. It makes a prolific production of pea-sized or larger, glossy brownish-purple, bland-flavored berries with persistent style, that resemble American gooseberry when cooked. They are palatable raw or cooked. Ripe fruits last long on the bush, often 2 months. It is adaptable to a range of climates and the only species recommended for southern California.
Crandall
Origin uncertain, probably Iowa, 1890s. Still the best for fruit quality. Bush rather weak, weeping, fruit hidden inside foliage, difficult to find.
Jostaberry
Jostaberries are hybrids of black currant and the American gooseberry, R. hirtellum, produced in Germany, 1930s-50s. They are currently a subject of commercial promotion, but performance in California is disappointing. The bush is very tall, thornless, tends not to branch and requires the space of 2 currant bushes. The foliage is glossy, larger than gooseberry, lobed, scentless and resists mildew. It survives full sunlight but requires much winter chilling. The lateral buds usually shed, leaving blind branches. Purple or brownish-red fruit are borne on lax, few-berried strigs. They are the size of small gooseberry and lacking in flavor, suitable only for experimentation. Buffalo currant produces comparable fruit more abundantly in less space and is recommended instead. New forms of Josta, backcrossed to the black currant parent, may be better than original types.
No offence, but if you’ve actually managed to get this far, you really should get out more!
T5RE: Tristar Tribute.
A fantastic selection of Tristar photographs – it’s a shame that it’s time for us to move on to bigger and better things.
The BWIA is still in use on the odd LHR flight and I occasionally see it fly over me but the A340 has taken over most of the flights and will slowly take over the Tristar. They’ve certainly chose a fine replacement for the aircraft though!
T5RE: Pic Of The Day-a little different!
You’ve embossed the actual image, right?
T5RE: PIC OF THE DAY NO ROOM FOR ERROR HERE!!!
That looks incredibly dangerous and I as a passenger would not be happy taking off from such a short runway!
Surely that’s incredibly dangerous!
T5RE: Pic Of the Day-Emirates Snapshots!
Very nice… The first one is spectacular and shows Emirates and the Boeing 777 in all their glory.
T5RE: John T’s 707
That article did say Thursday… I can assure you, unless it’s been changed?
T5RE: John T’s 707
Check the BBC link I supplied – that will confirm that is in London on thursday.
T5RE: Glasgow Airport
On the off chance that I actually get to Heathrow these days, I get bored with British Airways. With it being their UK hub – I can understand why about 70% of traffic is that of British Airways. I like to see exciting stuff!
Sounded like a great morning/afternoon. Like Ben says, post us some shots! 😉
T5RE: Toilet waste disposel in mid-flight
That’s disgusting – I hope those whose home suffered the most were heavily compensated!!
I think it’s fine, like you say, it’s only pumped out to sea anyway. It should only be permitted over the sea where it is not likely to cause disruption.
T5RE: Rude Security Scanning !!!!!
It’s just like having something stupid in your hand luggage – it’s going to be seen by the people you least want to see it. If it is going to have an effect, then let it be used and stop any future events which will affect the aviation industry.
T5RE: John T’s 707
A330Crazy,
I won’t be going up to Heathrow, I got a driving lesson and it’s results day so I won’t have the time unfortunately.
T5RE: John T’s 707
Great photograph.
It’s in at Heathrow on Thursday.
Check out http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/showbiz/2164637.stm for more information!
T5RE: Flaps
Do you think you might post the link as to where it can be downloaded as you said on msn?
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