Andonce again RAFALE IN INDIA HAS NOTHING TO DO IN THIS TOPIC!!!!!

the nuget is pure BS, e.g. the “internal document t” obtained was an ambiguous trade union report…BS to support Gnadi nothing less.

About your “nugget”, its just been dismissed by supreme Court. Again.

Sorry, offsets are going fine despite the hindu (a press extremely close to congress party).

Aka you’re talking shit from general press. Give me data, not elections material

Ever saw me saying “the americans ” or such? and absolutely wrong, please document yourself before making hot air. Everything is going fine and on schedule in Nagpur, Safran is fixing Kaveri, MBDA help for missiles etc.nothing such as vague or dubious. Bad faith…

Again, what is Dassault doing here. And guess what? Indians are very happy with Rafale deal, except Rahul Ghandi that was wistled back to his kennel for the second time by SC.

So if you think DA molested India, give proper argument or shut up.

Again, DAssault and France have nothing to do here.

Canada has contributed roughly 500 million over the course of the program and Canadian firms have won over 1 billion in awarded contracts so far. They are doing quite well as a partner nation (one reason they haven’t left and continue to pay into the program).

1 billion contracts are far from 1 billion benefits. Cost/benefit analysis?

if all Switzerland needs is simply just numbers capable of doing QRA and CAP all the time, they should just go for the cheapest one.
and I guess out of that list, it would be the Gripen.

Che”ck, A2G missions are needed.

LM is simply molesting Canada.

OK, but groundbreaking engineering is always going to have some unexpected costs. There is inherently a discovery aspect to engineering.

Regarding the ones sailing with the fleets, we will find out soon enough. Lockmart knew from the start that the stealth aspect would always open up further attack vectors, and they have been working towards methods for mitigating that fact for decades. Let’s put this another way, how long do you think it will be before anyone else is able to design and construct a stealth platform that can operate in a saltwater heavy environment? Other than the FC-31, there is as of yet nothing that is widely discussed as designed for it. And as for the FC-31, I would hate to be a pilot operating in a highly corrosive environment on experimental Chinese materials science. Other carrier based designs could be a long ways off…a long ways!

That is exactly why i say the program was poorly led. too ground breaking instead of a clear path for implementing the program step by step. Furthermore, due to delays, program after rebaseline went too fast in order to meet a timeline instead of technical steps. Tipycally reducing the number of tests. Once again i do believe that when mature the product will be fine, but by hurrying, it was finally slowed down.

Remember that 7085 alloy from alcoa was used because the early F-35 were too heavy. Therefore in 2007 engineers switched from titanium to 7085. 2000 and 7000 families of allys are not to be used in corrosive environment (although it is hard not to use them due to elastic properties) . Every aluminium alloys cointaining copper have corrosion issues.

Do you remember this?

Questions raised over 2004 weight-saving decision to switch key F-35 structures from titanium to new aluminium alloy

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar…ion-in-349905/.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar…ion-in-349905/

Interesting article about what happened then

https://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/weight-watchers-13117183/

Oh btw, corrosion issues on australian F-35…
F-35 Joint Strike Fighters at Williamtown RAAF base susceptible to ‘intergranular corrosion’, KPMG report finds

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-…20?pfmredir=sm

Another “solved” problem i guess?

as i said, one day it will be a nice airplane. In the meanwhile, extremely poorly led program (except on political side). Constantly rebaselined, new issues, faulty functions, delayed etc etc. LMshould be sued by Gov.