As i’m optimistic, i guess that those issues will be fixed with blk 4 software. No you cannot do CAS in a modern manner without Rover images. J messages won’t do the trick alone. Pilot must get a proper view of ground on order to deconflict. (forgot no laser btw…)
Madl showed issues when more than 4 planes were involved afaik. Originnally it should have been how many? 20? 30?
EOTS IS pbsolete comparing to latest sniper. Ypu have a brand new fighter with less capability than older ones.
Helmet what? Remenber that landing on a ship by night? Crazy. Hope fully these issues will be fixed for block4. How many weapons can F-35 bring presently? Operational? Yes, but only to pressure more taxpayers.
I do not know why some people (trolls) keep bringing RAfale in this thread. Or france “is not a race” what doese it mean?

One of the ways they are reducing costs is by using newer, better, and less expensive tech. The new ICP & EODAS units in TR3 are two examples of that. In both of those instances the component’s capabilities are increased while at the same time reducing costs.

Except that you are neglecting retrofit costs.

lol.. no

You take the operational CPFH of the Rafale vs the operational CPFH of the F-35 in the same timeframe. Since the French bailed on the Belgium offer, that was the best chance we had to see an apples-to-apples comparison. Absent that, we have to rely on “relevant” data like the Mali quote.

But hey, this is how the French play with numbers, delay, obfuscation, backroom bribes… er I mean “deals”.

wow racism now. ery funny talking about a LM product considering the long and very well known history of LM as uber-briber.

Opiot is absolutely right. You didn’t make a critic you made a sensless illogic assessment coparing two costs (which noone knows what was accounted in) forgetting rate changes. Pure intellectual dishonesty.

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“The department doesn’t see a path to get to $25,000 dollars per flying hour by FY25,” said Robert Daigle, the outgoing head of the Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation office, during a House Armed Services subcommittee hearing. “There are a fair number of studies going on right now that are going to provide some more information on that, but that’s a target and it’s not our projection for where we’re actually going to be.”

Or maybe you are insinuationg that Valerie Insinna is lying?

The CAPE’s estimates are provided in the SAR. The dispute is whether the program can achieve $25K by 2025. CAPE seems to think it cannot while the OEM thinks it can. According to the CAPE the best the F-35 can do is around $29K in FY12$ ($32K in FY19) so it remains to be seen whether through an active intervention the DOD and the OEMs can beat that or not. It is an aspirational goal, but rewind to the mid 2015’s and no one really believed that the URF could be lowered down to $80 Million for the F-35A by 2020 buy year and it appears that they have a strong chance of meeting or even beating that target. The “stretch” there too was to get as close to a 4th gen procurement cost as possible and the goal is similar i.e. to match that CAPE estimate for F-16C.

Let’s for a second take the CAPE’s work as gospel (which it’s not because there prior estimates have been widely off and have overestimated the overall program spend – It is good for organizations like the CAPE to be more conservative with their estimates and to be off in one direction only)..would a 15-20% higher CPFH over an F-16C be worth the investment given the capability one gets in return? I think this is a trade that most within the USAF in particular would be willing to make.

Yes, but how did they lower procurement cost? Delaying capabilities so that they will be financed buy CAPE. Not to mention incoming TR3 (necessary to get a really operational aircraft) On well about 1000 F-35?

Really, now we’re doing Sputnik as valid news sources on American programs?

In fact there is an official statement, so in this very area Sputnik is not in cause.

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019…-unattainable/

[QUOTE]The department doesn’t see a path to get to $25,000 dollars per flying hour by FY25,” said Robert Daigle, the outgoing head of the Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation office, during a House Armed Services subcommittee hearing.[/QUOTE]

India, France Hold Large Naval Warfare Exercise Involving 2 Aircraft Carriers

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/04/mdl-launched-3rd-visakhapatnam-class-project-15b-destroyer-for-indian-navy/

Oh wait. In his graph FBW used RCPFH. That is the lowest possible value. And the one comaprable to Rafale costs in Lybia. Numbers are numbers, sometimes hard. F-35 is a golden queen.

For you information, Rafale CAPE is 27000 euros.

Si l’on ajoute tous les coûts de fonctionnement ( solde des pilotes…), l’heure de vol d’un Rafale serait de 27.000 euros, selon la loi de finances 2013.