Ok for the engines, but new wing structure and avionics are included in that version.
PS-90A engine is at best mid 80s tech. Certainly not on level of engines that 737 newest version is getting. IF IL-476 gets newest engine. Its efficiency will improve by 30 to 40%. I am not even going into light weight avionics or composites. Aerodynamics are already the best. no need to improve it.
most of your posts does not make sense anyway so I dont respond to them.
VVS ordered 39 IL 476, with PS-90A-76 engines.
http://www.portail-aviation.com/2015/01/premier-vol-de-lilyushin-il-476-de-serie.html
Another crazy F1 low pass in Chad from Altipresse
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-A D-30 engine on Tu-154 will not work above M1.0, but a MiG-31 has no problems going above M3.0, despite its using an afterburning variant of the same D-30 engine.
-Su-24 had top speed of M2.18 but when its variable ramps are deleted, its top speed was reduced to M1.35.
-B-1A had top speed of M2.0+ but when its variable ramps are deleted in B-1B, top speed was reduced to M1.25.
Another excellent example : mirage 2000 Mach 2.3, Mirage 2000 D with fixed air intake : Mach 1.4 (as far as i remember)
I’m curious as to why Dassault was so keen to have Reliance Industries as lead integrator. Teer, anyone?
Did anyone say that? They just wanted a second supply chain.
Livefist reports that Dassault underwriting the deal is a must. It was mentioned in the RFP itself, if they did not want to do it why did they even compete ?
http://www.livefistdefence.com/2015/02/now-only-question-of-how-dassault.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FUQMw+%28LiveFist+-+The+Best+of+Indian+Defence%29
Why not simply because it wsn’t in RFP whatever that offcial said to Shiv.
posted somewhere up (i did) roughly 14000 euros as accounted by France (including exterior operations)
As said by scorpion these things must be done at isperimeter. For example France accounts 8000 euros for mirage 2000 and india 4000 dollars.
Proportinnally that would make 7000 $ CPFH using indian accounts. Much lower than MKI
Bu all that is absurd. CPFH is much depending on the way you calculate it and how you use your planes etc. etc.
Noone seriously reported anything about the cost of Rafales in Egypt for the following reasons : noone exactly knows what is included in the deal, in particular types and exact numbers of missiles (i think it is more or less known for mica and aasm, but that is all).
Bogdan may be the person that saves F-35 program mismanagement.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/02/23/india-france-rafale-idINKBN0LR18120150223
Hope for a possible solution to the impasse?
Tehere’s never been any impasse except in yellow indian press.
Livefist @livefist 13 minil y a 13 minutes Voir la traduction
Talks between Indian & French defence min ‘positive’, my sources tell me. Awaiting specifics. All involved justifiably tight-lipped. #MMRCA
No hearsay involved. Its just plain logic. The only practical difference between a medium fighter and a heavy fighter is operating cost (and perhaps RCS). The advantage of lower cost vis a vis the Su-30MKI is already all but lost.
Any clue about that? (Apart from Ajai Shukla deliriums). REmind me how long last an AL-31 engine btw?
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Delete perhaps there are several magnitude of order between Rafale ans MKI regarding RCS.
Monsieur LeBoss, you’re most welcome.
Mrmalalilaya, FYI I’ve always supported the Typhoon bid for MMRCA, now I have considerable reason for optimism regarding a ‘one-horse’ re-tender (as a continuation of a revised/recosted bid submitted last summer).
Also, a week before AeroIndia 2013 I posted on this forum that the cost of the 126 Rafale deal had skyrocketed to US$20bn, the incredulous reply I got here was: “that’s for 200 Rafales, you idiot!!”….. Well ‘who’s laughin’ now Momma?!’
Is 20 billions the cost of planes or the cost of planes (and package), ToT AND Industrialzation?
Tend to agree. A lot of people tend to see only what they want to see. There is obviously and not so surprisingly a lobbying from Russia to amplify or invent any cracks/issues in the process, both as an opportunity to come back in the game and to follow through on their threats following the Mistral deal decision. Some media in India are all too eager to be on their, payroll (MMRCA cancelled, mig sales to substitute to Rafale, exploding cost of the contract,…. to name a few (all from un-named sources of course )
Now this said, it remains clear there is a stand off situation. HAL making a statement that they are ready to guarantee what they produce, is a significant first step. Problem is, that is not what the committee,is expecting. What is expected is the same quality guarantees for plane produced from France or India. This tend to imply the HAL guarantee is considered insufficient, and that Dassault, guarantee is expected. This would eventually be possible ,given the same tools, process, control quality than currently used in France, are deployed and implemented verifiably. This is where the problem lay, since Dassault will not have that control power over HAL.
Some other considerations to incorporate. Dassault is not desesperate to maintain its production line. The 11 planes/year is guaranteed. French government is on the other hand hard pressed to delay paying 11 planes / year ,by substituting own order with export ones. This is now partly done thanks to Egypt deal, so pressure there is much less now.
Second thing is Dassault and its subcontractors are genuinely looking for new and alternate network of partners and subcontractors to current ones, since current ones would very much like to switch and use their equipment and assets to more lucrative markets ,producing for Airbus hundred parts instead , without the disturbance of committing 11 rafale parts a year or 22 or even 33 would there be enough exports to triple the current cadence. So arguably Dassault is willing,to succeed in India, and for reasons that go beyond the MMCA alone. But not at all and unreasonable cost.
100% agree
Nothing in common. A universe apart from RN news btw… The very same ones trumpeting sales of MIG 35 to Egypts and that MMRCA is dead?
And???