where does that figure came from
Fox three n°8. Is hould check, but i think it is with one supersonic tank and some missiles.
New GAO report (or was it already posted?)
I based my assertion on photo from this thread:
And this
http://www.airpower.at/news06/0922_captor-e/index.html
APG-81 T/R count from this
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?128252-Eurofighter-Typhoon-Discussion-and-News-2014/page24Assuming the T/R modules of F-35 is notch radiator then each notch will accounted for 1 T/R modules. If we assume SpudmanWP counted the prongs , not the gaps ( which he said he didn’t ) then you can deduce number by 1 for each collume, there are around 50 collumn of T/R modules on APG-81. So 1626 – 50 = 1576 T/R modules, still higher than CAPTOR-E number
You realize these are dummy antennas do you???
companies like Boeing, NG, Airbus… have been begging for years for funding to develop advanced cutting edge UCAVs, with little success as Europe doesn’t have the money or the political unity, and the Pentagon is killing everything that poses a threat to the F-35 (such as J-UCAS and the X-47b)
Ever heard about FCAS… Btw, Germany is knocking at the door.
well the F-35’s technology is a generation ahead of the F-22
For a big part of it is it directly derived from F-22 tech, not so much more advanced (except in visual/IR spectrum)
I’ve seen count estimates in the 1400 range, 1500 range and some even as high as 1600. The best I’ve managed to get out of Northrop Grumman folks has been >1200 which is as non specific (for these purposes) as the official line of more than 1000.
Same here, had 1250 number. Albeit those numbers are usually classified.
better components (especially in the area of transistor technology where US leads by a country mile)
your opinion… Btw, there are techniques to suppress grating lobes. (or disminishing their effects) (non linear distribution of elements etc.)
And what has been released on the climb rates for the F-22, Rafale, and Typhoon? Other than vague charts or some initial climb rate figures, not much. An F-22 pilot got into deep trouble posting some impressions of the F-22 climb and supersonic ability on a forum a few years back. There won’t be any official release of the data you want due to OPSEC. In other words, you may want figures for climb to altitude then acceleration to supersonic, but your not going to see a flight manual or acceleration graphs released by the L-M or any service for a long time (if ever).
0to 40 000 fts in slightly less than 2 mins for Rafale. Not very precise, but documented.
Don’t know what Halloweene would think about that, but nowadays in the era of off boresight missile, if you’re seen visually you’re dead. The F-35 is not meant to replace the F-15E. The F-16 and F-18C are light grey and the AV-8B is not used regularly for a2a and is used mainly for CAS.
As a stealth plane the F-35 would fly at high altitude most of the time probably so doesn’t need a dark color.
Not really any opinion about that.
Are we talking about Meteor on F-35 by 2024, or just Meteor in RAF by 2024? Because it’s due on the Typhoon in June 2018.
https://twitter.com/byMBDA/status/855402177954816000
Meteor on F-335
Halloweene, with all the due respect it seems me that you want to found a defect at any cost in the F-35.
Also the F-15E is painted in a darker shade than the C/D version and in this case there wasn’t ever the issue of stealth, it was just that one is a air superiority fighter that have to operate at an high quote while the other is a strike plane that was supposed to operate at a standard height and mainly at night (introduction of JDAMs changhed things on that regard but colour stayied).
No. I just saud there was a problem on Rafale for colour of painting and it could have been the same issue on F-35. That’s all. F-35 has enough defaults so i wouldn not bitch on that š
From 2024?
yes.
Then what are they waiting for.. the F-35 plan is to NOT be seen visually. A fighter pilot with good eyesight can see visually a fighter at up to 12km or so. The best fighter ace of the modern area ( an Israeli pilot whose callsign was hawkeye ) was able to see other planes at 20-25km.
I do not know for F-35, but for Rafale it’s been a pain in… to find a radar transparent paint over the RAM. (first Rafale C was black, remember). Could be that type of issue.
F-35 did not particpate to first part of Atlantic Trident (WVR and BVR fights…)
Well, good riddance Boeing.
Glad that the least desirable option is out of the picture. One down, three more to go. :p
Anw B-61 is not to be adapted to USN planes no? (same for europeans planes for instance).
The purchase of fighter a/c is often quite political — some countries do not have fighters at all, in particular the Baltic countries (in spite of having Russia as close neighbor).
Belgium is a NATO member having only friendlies as neighbors. Thus in theory Belgium could decide to leave the QRA duty to other countries and instead spend their defence money on other aspects, be it UCAVs, submarines, special forces, or whatnot.
Or they can decide (as they have done) to fly fighters.
Even then the question remains; what kind of fighters? fighters to do QRA only, or fighters that can survive in high-threat environments? This is a political question, due to Belgium’s NATO membership.
The answer is given in the RFP: Belgium wants (and requests) a modern, very potent multirole fighter jet that can successfully complete a whole range of missions, including in quite high-threat environments.
This, together with a strong wish to be compatible with other NATO forces point in one direction: The F-35.
Anyway as stated before: I hope the Belgians will present high-level summaries like the Danes did; perhaps someone will be surprised when they see the Rafale results š
Except that a 3F F-35 wouldn’t be able to perform the given scenarios due to lack of weapons . Not true for 4F i think. There is another problem with timetable. Block III F-18 is maybe not advanced enough atm. Fianlly, the very structure of the RFpG is to seek for a deep collaboration with vendor state. i would be surprised to see USA propose two different aircrafts (different to Korea, here Both F-18 and F-35 would need to be proposed by USA agencies, not companies).