So it’s okay for the USA to destroy a satellite 3x heavier orbiting at 250 km in 2008 (USA-193), but not for India (or anyone else) to do the same thing. :rolleyes:

Eyeroll emojis are a sorry substitute for research. Want to know the difference? The US test didn’t jeopardize the safety of the ISS. While both tests were relatively low earth orbit and majority of debris will decay within a few months (all traceable USA-193 debris decayed within a year), the US test didn’t send a plume of pieces above the ISS orbit. So before claiming idiotic wuddabout’ism read what the issue was.

China ASAT test on the other hand…. criminal.
Bottom line- No one should be conducting these tests, look at the result of the 2007 Chinese test as a % or large debris in space:
https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/legacy/assets/documents/nwgs/debris-in-brief-factsheet.pdf

It is insecurity, what else?

Like I said, there are rumors about the planes in Syria, and well, the Turks saw what they saw.

After all, Su-35 easily outmaneuvered the F-22, and there is proof to show for it:

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Weirdly nothing the other way around though, hmmm.

No idea why people respond to scooter’s trolling.

BTW, I don’t know how that alleged pilot’s twitter image got circulated without anyone questioning the obvious…….that isn’t an F-22.

It’s not an entirely new architecture for them. They gained an uncertain amount of knowledge from Al-41. This would have given their ideas on how to go about implementing such an architecture.

And that was an entirely unpleasant experience by all accounts.

Besides Flateric who has a track record of being right, you have another native speaker casting doubt on the designer’s words (and in a similar fashion). Online translations are notoriously inaccurate for the Russian language.

Lastly, just because something seems logical from a technical point of view, doesn’t make it practical from a cost or technological maturity standpoint.

The most important parameter is if Izd. 30 meets the requirements laid out. The YF120 was deemed to be suitable from a performance standpoint yet risky in terms of Technological readiness. The F119 met the performance criteria without undue risk.

Would i remind you guys of how the last 15-20 years on this forum has been.

1st. Russia did do not have a chance in hell to develop a new modern class fighter jet with stealth requirements. Russia broke!!

2nd. 2010. Well its not a Stealth jet, cus protuding probes, antennas, round nozzles from AL-31F series engine bla bla.

3rd. 2018. We see both Idz 30 and PD-14 is happening, in which has silenced most, but now its; Well Russia cannot buy them, Russia still broke!!

Do you guys see a trend here?

And the flip side of this was the overly sunny prognostications about how the Su-57 was going to enter “mass production” in 2015, Supercruise at over mach 2 (personal fave), that Russia isn’t like the US and had avoided the pitfalls of the F-35 “fiasco” so it’s development was going to go swimmingly (of which you were one of the more vociferous cheerleaders of this).

Frankly, those of us who were more measured and cautious were proved correct time and again. The “doubters” were wrong. the “cheerleaders” such as yourself, were wrong. As usual the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Hardly can they imagine that the RF is buying Su-35s under $30 million and that probably Su-57, if it is very expensive as they admitted, will come at $45-50 million. That is just my guess, but officials have already said the plane will cost 2-2.5 times less than the American examples so it can be in that ballpark indeed.

Yeah, and I can buy “real Gucci sunglasses” from the local street vendor for $20 USD. There have been several Su-35S contract disclosures (China, Indonesia, Egypt proposal). So, either Russia is charging export customers 3.5 times what they are costing Russia (in which case the customers are rubes) or “under 30 million” is in your wildest dreams. If you look at an average of export contracts of combat aircraft, with support, equipment, training, they usually add up to between 1.5-to a bit over 2 times the “unit cost” on a per aircraft basis.

In in other words, “no”. 50-60 million in USD would be more accurate.

Also something to consider, LTAMDS is due to be fielded in 2022 (360* GaN AESA Patriot replacement), not to mention GEM-T &C interceptors with GaN transmitters going into production.

Also, India was not partner at any point of time. Indian “dances” about military tenders is well known. FGFA story is just one of them.

That’s fundamentally revisionist, Russia and India signed an IGA for the design stage, basically a co-development of the FGFA based on the Pak-Fa project. They contributed roughly 300 million USD (2010) in the development stage. Disagreements over India specific design elements betwen Pak-Fa and FGFA, cost sharing, and India’s share of co-production sunk the project.