I think it is a model and not the real plane. LCA is going to fly at the show.
When it comes to ToT and developing stuff from scratch India looks toward the west. Tejas/Arjun etc are examples.
genius ! you think there’s a resemblance between these two ? not just any resemblance but ‘uncanny’ {external} resemblance that is enough to convince you that arjun is a foreign design ?! wow, you sir are truly a genius, who sees things that mere mortals can’t dream of.
now imagine my surprise when I find that the abrams, chally, leclerc, k1 all have as ‘uncanny’ resemblance to the leo1 as arjun does ! what does that mean sir ?
are all those tanks designed by krauss maffei ? wow, this fantastic bit of logical reasoning always escaped my limited mental capacity.
Despite DRDO’s attempts at indigenization, the Arjun relied heavily on foreign components and technology. DRDO received major design assistance from Krauss Maffei, the developer of the German Leopard 2 tank, and several other German firms. As a result, Arjun’s design is very similar to that of Leopard 2A4 tank
http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Arjun_(tank)
Arjunβs design is based on German Leopard 2A4. German designers Krauss Maffei were contracted for the design of Arjun MBT.
http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2010/04/army-to-order-more-arjun-tanks.html
Unless you come up with sources claiming the design is totally indigenous my point stands.
Not foreign design. The S-tank & Ikv 91 were Swedish-designed, & used Swedish (Bofors) guns. The latter also had a Swedish (Volvo) engine.
I was talking about Arjun :(. But your reply is most relevant to what Boom was talking about.
err quadbike, so I take it you consider armour and the main gun of MBT’s(among others) to be not so critical items ? π most people actually define tanks according to those two parameters.
as for swedish tanks, did I get it wrong but I think those too used foreign engines. oh and the gun was a british design as well.
of course that still makes it swedish isn’t it, it’s only when even a screw in arjun is foreign it becomes a foreign tank. π
just saying,
cheers !
Foreign Design, Foreign Engine, Foreign Gearbox, Foreign Fire control and Navigation.
Heh. India has a lot more going on than what a single company like SAAB can provide. India has no dearth of programs & even the industrial capability to achieve it, what it really needs is an overarching commitment to aerospace from national leadership & complete & equitable participation from all firms involved, whether public or private, with long term plans laid out upfront, serious commitment from the end user to justify the investment, and clear lines of leadership & accountability. The rest is just eyewash. With the huge offsets bonanza coming in, there are many firms capable and eager enough to participate in aerospace, the challenge & the need of the hour is to have an aerospace vision beyond just individual programs, organizations and trade bodies.
What SAAB has and ADA/HAL doesn’t is the expertise at designing successful fighters throughout the past many decades. Now Indian defense Industrial complex may have more to offer than what Sweden does but that is besides the point (only may). If you look at the LCA for example it has as many foreign derived components as the Gripen has if not more. Even for the excellent FCS/FBW India was collaborating with the Americans before the nuclear tests.
Now lets look at the AWACS SAAB has been making the Erieye for many years now and they have the SAAB 2000 platform to carry it (ofcourse it can be carried on Embarer as well). India on the other hand is just developing its on AWACS and needs Embarer airframes because of a lack of home grown alternative.
Now lets look at India’s armour, nearly all critical systems in the Arjun is imported and it bears an uncanny resemblance to the MKI Leopard. The Swedes were designing their own tanks before opting for the German Leopard MKII.
The only places where India has a lead over Sweden at the moment I believe is Space & Ballistic missile technology. Now this is not going to be the same always as Indian capabilities evolve, but it sure can use the help of some one like SAAB or any foreign entity with the relevant expertise to boost its current programmes.
new squadron ? One closeup showed the patch had “Veiled Vipers” written and there is no squadron in the IAF by that name..
Looks like it.
Even the mark 1 has not had an aerial launch……
The Roundel is not the same Its Red for Italian AF and Saffron for IAF. The Green is also different.